Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-01-31 Thread willie bunter
Hi Esmie,   Did you receive any replies?  I still have a problem with my account when I don't receive posts.     From: esmie moo To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 1:45:04 PM Subject: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-01-31 Thread esmie moo
ATTEMPTING ALTER Hi Esmie,   Did you receive any replies?  I still have a problem with my account when I don't receive posts.     From: esmie moo To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 1:45:04 PM Subject: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-01-31 Thread Steve Thompson
: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER Good Afternoon Gentle Readers, I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated. : /* //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-01-31 Thread Ed Gould
er my question. Thank you for asking. From: willie bunter To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:04:39 PM Subject: Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER Hi Esmie, Did you receive any replies? I still have a pr

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-01-31 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
hope someone can answer my question. Thank you for asking. From: willie bunter To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:04:39 PM Subject: Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER Hi Esmie, Did you receive any replies? I

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread David Devine
Hi, sorry to say it's still only mgmtclas and storclas that can be ams altered on a migrated dataset without forcing a recall. Hopefully you can recall them without filling up your sms pools! And because you have updated the catalog entry they will end up being physically migrated again even if y

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Don Williams
Ed Gould > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 12:04 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER > > Esmie: > > I think this was discussed a while ago (20+ years ago) at a GUIDE > session. > IBM insisted that the

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread esmie moo
Thanks Steve for clearing this up. From: Steve Thompson To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:35:09 PM Subject: Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER From:  esmie moo Date:  01/31/2013 04:22 PM Willie, No

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
esmie moo wrote: >I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated. >So it looks like the recall has to be done in order to process those files. Do something like this, hopefully after hours: IKJEFT - Recall say 500 dsn in one SYSIN. Do your IDCAMS ALTER job with one SYSIN for all t

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread esmie moo
Elardus,   That is what I did.  I recalled the dsns then I did the ALTER command.  Thanks for the tip. From: Elardus Engelbrecht To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 8:29:44 AM Subject: Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread EXT-Schwarz, Barry
n. > From: esmie moo > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 1:45:04 PM > Subject: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER > > Good Afternoon Gentle Readers, > > I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated. : &g

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Greg Shirey
That is an interesting question, and something that's been bugging me since the OP first posted. If you create a +1 SMS-managed GDG with DISP=(NEW,KEEP), the system will create a data set with the next G00V00 sequenced number. But if that data set is *not* rolled in before you create (+1) ag

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Hervey Martinez
all of these "in" is an exercise in futility since the GDG base limit is 255. Regards, Hervey -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 3:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Hervey Martinez wrote: > Assuming that all these gdg files belong to the "same gdg base"; it's > possible that the GDG base was defined with a "noscratch"; then, when a gdg > is "rolled off" then the file would not get deleted just detached from the > base but stay

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:45:04 -0800, esmie moo wrote: >Good Afternoon Gentle Readers, � I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated.� : � This thread moves me to a (possibly) naive philosophical question from a remote perspective. (I like to keep a safe distance from z/OS internals

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Good Afternoon Gentle Readers, � I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated.� : � This thread moves me to a (possibly) naive philosophical question from a remote perspective. (I like to keep a safe distance from z/OS internals -

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-02 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
mp; Basic Admin - Boston - MAY 21-23 - Securing z/OS UNIX - WebEx - JUL 23-25 - -Original Message- Date:Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:45:04 -0800 From:esmie moo Subject: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTI

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-04 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Esmie, GDG defined as NOEMPTY will ROLL-OFF the older members as you create +1 GDG members. With the maximum number of members in a GDG set as 256, only the latest 256 memebrs are connected (ROLLIN) to the GDG BASE catalog entry. ALl others are cataloged by their explicit name, and canno

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-04 Thread Bruce Hewson
correction. On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 02:03:18 -0600, Bruce Hewson wrote: >Hello Esmie, > >GDG defined as NOSCRATCH will ROLL-OFF the older members as you create +1 GDG >members. > >With the maximum number of members in a GDG set as 256, only the latest 256 >memebrs are connected (ROLLIN) to the GDG