Just to complement: RACF, TSS and ACF2 were not the only choice.
Here, in Poland many installation had been using polish security product
called PIES (eng. DOG).
Now, AFAIK there is (still) one small TSS shop, all the rest use RACF.
Few years ago I saw some announcement of DEADBOLT, product
There are a couple of shops in Toronto that use it.
It was developed by a couple of. CROWN TECH/DATACROWN ex-employees.
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From: Shane Ginnane
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 14:52
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Subject: Re:
I am interested in determining/clarifying what the current market share
breakdown is for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top
Secret. In his 5/24/12 interview with Jeffrey R. Yost, Ph.D.
(conservancy.umn.edu/bitstream/handle/11299/132470/oh404bs.pdf), Barry Schrager
On 9/9/2015 9:57 AM, Steve Harner wrote:
I am interested in determining/clarifying what the current market share
breakdown is for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top
Secret. In his 5/24/12 interview with Jeffrey R. Yost, Ph.D.
On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 08:47:27 -0500, Steve Harner wrote:
>(a) When SKK was sold in 1986, ACF2 had a 60% market share while IBM’s RACF
>and CA’s Top Secret split the other 40%; and (b) Currently , RACF has 75%
>market share while ACF2 and Top Secret from CA share the other
Hi, Shane.
I've seen and used Top Secret at government, military, and very large
financial service organizations.
No idea of the numbers, of course.
Cheers,,,Steve
Steven F. Conway
AO-DTS- CTHO-HSD INFRASTRUCTURE (INFR)
z/OS Systems Support
Phone: 703-295-1926
Mobile: 304-995-7360
Yes, we have customers running TSS. I could (but won't LOL) name a very large
bank.
Charles
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Yeah I think our numbers are larger on RACF and yes we have some large TSS
shops as well as RACF
On Wednesday, September 9, 2015, Rob Schramm wrote:
> I think the numbers would need one more delineation. My understanding is
> that TS is also in a lot of z/VSE. Which
On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:40:49 +0300, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>The market is is split between TSS & RACF. I know of only one ACF2 site,
>but they droped the mainframe...
Interesting - as I said I have never seen TSS in any shop in Aus. Just never
got a foothold here. That
Tony Harminc wrote:
>Only IBM is in a position to truly know the market share, because only
>they know exactly how many z/OS systems are out there.
Not truly, not exactly. IBM's omnipotence is routinely overestimated. ;)
IBM presumably knows how many z/OS licensees(*) are licensing the z/OS
No surprise. I've done such RACF to TSS conversion myself due to a bank
merge with our own tools. TSS is much more detailed in control and more
protective, but RACF is much more simpler to use and configure and use SAF
in a more standard way.
The market is is split between TSS & RACF. I know of
I think the numbers would need one more delineation. My understanding is
that TS is also in a lot of z/VSE. Which changes the results for the
question "how many mainframe installations of TS are there?" Of course if
you add in z/VM, it might change things again.
I was under the impression that
I know of two extremely large US banks that use it.
Both have RACF & T/S; at least one is (or was) in the throes of converting RACF
to T/S.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Charles Mills
Sent: Wednesday, September 09,
On 9 September 2015 at 09:47, Steve Harner wrote:
> I am interested in determining/clarifying what the current market share
> breakdown is for EACH of the three
> z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret.
Only IBM is in a position to truly know the market share,
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