Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:24:23 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >z/OS V1R11.0 UNIX System Services Planning z/OS V1R11.0 GA22-7800-17 > >Unlike other non-VSAM data sets that can be opened and closed repeatedly >throughout the day, some file systems are often mounted for several days or >weeks at

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Jonathan I have no experience with DFSMShsm, but we are using ADRDSSU to backup our ZFS files, and during the backup there is a quiesce. Our long running USS processes are complaining as they have no access during this quiesce period. So seems to me not the DFSMShsm but the data mover makes

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Jonathan Miller
If I do the HBACKDS it works and that is through HSM. So the autobackup should also work in theory. Jonathan Miller AES/PHEAA IT-Tech Services Systems Programmer (717) 720-2763 (Desk) (717) 554-3663 (Cell) This message contains privileged and confidential information intended for the above addres

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Jonathan Miller
Lizette, I do not have the zfs files in a SG with GBF. I may have to do that to get this to work or just setup a DFDSS batch job and let it back them up. thanks for all the responses, I'll pursue what Lizette recommended and see if that helps. Jonathan Miller AES/PHEAA IT-Tech Services System

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Jousma, David
MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Miller Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files Lizette

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
ginal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Miller Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files Lizette, Yes I saw that article. If I read it correctly DFSMShsm s

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Jonathan Miller
Lizette, Yes I saw that article. If I read it correctly DFSMShsm should backup the ZFS files by doing a quiesce. Our files do not have a backup at all. Is this because they are mounted and AUTOBACKUP can't get the quiesce possibly. I am doing some more digging on my end to see what's up. Is th

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files Hi all, After adding a new DFSMS MC that had AUTOBACKUP(YES) and doing an alter for all the ZFS datasets to move them into this new MC. I also changed the ACS routines in case a new one get created. I was hopeful this morning run would ba

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Jonathan Miller
Hi all, After adding a new DFSMS MC that had AUTOBACKUP(YES) and doing an alter for all the ZFS datasets to move them into this new MC. I also changed the ACS routines in case a new one get created. I was hopeful this morning run would back up our ZFS files. Didn't happen. I had the INCREMENTAL

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-10 Thread Jousma, David
backing up ZFS files David, We are a monoplex and the backup is within the same LPAR. I have the AUTODUMP set to use DFDSS, but I didn't know AUTOBACKUP had feature for this, or is it a GLOBAL setting in the ARCCMD## member? Jonathan Miller AES/PHEAA IT-Tech Services Systems Programmer (717

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-10 Thread Jonathan Miller
David I was incorrect, It is under SETSYS CDSVERSIONBACKUP set the DATAMOVER(DSS) I don't think that is universal. Jonathan Miller AES/PHEAA IT-Tech Services Systems Programmer (717) 720-2763 (Desk) (717) 554-3663 (Cell) This message contains privileged and confidential information intended for t

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Miller Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files Hi, I am trying to have DFSMShsm backup our ZFS files during AUTOBACKUPSTART time period. I followed the directions in the manual and

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-10 Thread Jonathan Miller
David, We are a monoplex and the backup is within the same LPAR. I have the AUTODUMP set to use DFDSS, but I didn't know AUTOBACKUP had feature for this, or is it a GLOBAL setting in the ARCCMD## member? Jonathan Miller AES/PHEAA IT-Tech Services Systems Programmer (717) 720-2763 (Desk) (717) 55

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-10 Thread Jonathan Miller
Hi Lizette. I think a coworker found the problem. The Management Class was set to AUTOBACKUP(NO) I changed these files to a new MC with AUTOBACKUP(YES) and set the parameters to run first thing in the morning since I am leaving for the day soon. I'll check it in the morning. According to the man

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-10 Thread Jousma, David
, MIĀ  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Miller Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files Hi, I am trying to have

DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-10 Thread Jonathan Miller
Hi, I am trying to have DFSMShsm backup our ZFS files during AUTOBACKUPSTART time period. I followed the directions in the manual and made sure the Default Group had a GID and the Started Task user id also has a UID (0) and a directory of '/' (root). The files still aren't backing up. We ar