AW: Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-16 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>So if you want to use EAV's, make them SMS. ... ... and be prepared to have to deal with strange errors with software which is not EAV-savvy, i.e. which show strange behaviour with cylinder managed block addresses. E.g. code written with SAS-C may not like them. -- Peter Hunkeler ---

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-11 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Besides the Redbooks, a good place to start is the 'z/OS DFSMS Using New Functions' manual. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-11 Thread Klaus Stanislawiak
On 5/10/2016 10:30 AM, Tom Conley wrote: > I ran many different searches trying to find this information, also > using the term "cylinder-managed" space. While it directed me to the > EAV section of the DFSMS Using Datasets manual, not one example of how > to allocate a dataset in the cylinder-

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/11/2016 1:35 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote: Tom, I'll be covering this in the Bit Bucket at SHARE in Atlanta. Thanks for giving me some more information about this. If you go to zTechU in Munich, I'm presenting there, so please look me up. I had planned on it when I saw your name on the roste

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread Barbara Nitz
Tom, >I'll be covering this in the Bit Bucket at SHARE in Atlanta. Thanks for >giving me some more information about this. If you go to zTechU in >Munich, I'm presenting there, so please look me up. I had planned on it when I saw your name on the roster... Barbara

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread Ron Hawkins
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] EAV bug or feature? I often use this clist for Non-SMS recalls. 2 DSLIST xx.CLIST(HRECN) - 01.00Columns 1 00072 +1+2+3+4+5+6+7-- * T

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread Mike Schwab
I often use this clist for Non-SMS recalls. 2 DSLIST xx.CLIST(HRECN) - 01.00Columns 1 00072 +1+2+3+4+5+6+7-- * Top of Data ** PROC 2 D V CONTROL PROMPT NOSYML

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/10/2016 1:53 PM, nitz-ibm wrote: One of the things I found appalling is that there is not a single example of how to allocate an EAV dataset in the cylinder-managed space anywhere in any IBM doc. You can find EATTR=OPT if you know to look for it, but do a search on how to allocate an EAV da

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread nitz-ibm
> One of the things I found appalling is that there is not a single > example of how to allocate an EAV dataset in the cylinder-managed space > anywhere in any IBM doc. You can find EATTR=OPT if you know to look for > it, but do a search on how to allocate an EAV dataset. Nothing. When I trie

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/10/2016 7:30 AM, Tom Conley wrote: I suspect you'll have better luck if you search for EAS. Unfortunately, that overloaded acronym is also a VTAM term, so you might want to use something like "EAS data set" or "data set EAS" instead. I ran many different searches trying to find this infor

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/10/2016 10:26 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 5/10/2016 6:59 AM, Tom Conley wrote: You can find EATTR=OPT if you know to look for it, but do a search on how to allocate an EAV dataset. Nothing. There is no such thing as an EAV data set. EAV is a type of volume with both track-managed and cylinder

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/10/2016 6:59 AM, Tom Conley wrote: You can find EATTR=OPT if you know to look for it, but do a search on how to allocate an EAV dataset. Nothing. There is no such thing as an EAV data set. EAV is a type of volume with both track-managed and cylinder-managed areas. The cylinder-managed ar

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/10/2016 3:04 AM, Tom Conley wrote: On 5/10/2016 1:23 AM, Pinnacle wrote: FYI, I allocated a non-SMS EAV on my system with 111300 cylinders. I try to run three jobs with SPACE=(CYL,(1,5000),RLSE),DSNTYPE=LARGE. The first job runs, the other two fail with IEF257I SPACE REQUESTED NOT AV

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-10 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/10/2016 1:23 AM, Pinnacle wrote: FYI, I allocated a non-SMS EAV on my system with 111300 cylinders. I try to run three jobs with SPACE=(CYL,(1,5000),RLSE),DSNTYPE=LARGE. The first job runs, the other two fail with IEF257I SPACE REQUESTED NOT AVAILABLE, on the EAV when it has 9 CYL

Re: EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
Could you share the error message(s) you get? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Pinnacle > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 10:24 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EAV bug or feature

EAV bug or feature?

2016-05-09 Thread Pinnacle
FYI, I allocated a non-SMS EAV on my system with 111300 cylinders. I try to run three jobs with SPACE=(CYL,(1,5000),RLSE),DSNTYPE=LARGE. The first job runs, the other two fail with IEF257I SPACE REQUESTED NOT AVAILABLE, on the EAV when it has 9 CYLS avail. The allocation message in