In <8736691671845630.wa.butler.jongmail@listserv.ua.edu>, on
07/01/2015
at 09:36 AM, Jon Butler said:
>The real problem, IMHO, is that management is interested in the
>bottom line...can you say "H1B"...and nothing else.
There's more than one bottom line. The flight magazine managerars are
On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 03:42:19 -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote:
>
>No doubt the deal was trumpeted by IBM, but it's another site that will be ex
>soon. How does that build the platform ?.
>
>Shane ...
>
I don't think IBM wants to build the platform. They are placing all bets on
cloud, analyitcs, mob
Maybe Shane's asleep. I was doing 'automation' for a shipping company and
we were OK on technical side but were having trouble finding IT people with
good crossover skills. Anyway long story short Mgmt put out a job opening
in trade papers for a good salary and benefits. Guy they hired had go
Well, I can't sleep. So I'll put in my small change. What IT management
wants is what the truly powerful people (the 0.5% who have 90+% of the
world's wealth) want: Serfs. Not slaves, serfs. Slaves rebel. Serfs
generally are resigned to their position in life. Well, that put me on the
"hit" list, d
Ed Gould wrote:
>Not quite. One of the companies that does this lays out in specifics that you
>can hire cheaper labor with H1B's after you have advertised at a grossly
>unfair rate local people who wouldn't think of working at the rate of H1B's .
At first I hardly swallowed what you said, but
On 7/5/2015 1:32 AM, Ed Gould wrote:
On Jul 4, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
There are *DOCUMENTED* instances where IT is coached into putting an
ad into the paper asking for the world in qualifications and then put
in a low salary in the same ad. This is used to show the "nee
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 13:34:58 -0400, John Clifford wrote:
> Most companies are strictly bottom-liners, IMO, and will always go with the
> cheapest option.
...
> Just venting a bit.
No harm in venting.
We have an analogue to the H1B - sell your soul, then bleat about all those
unemployed people
On Jul 4, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
There are *DOCUMENTED* instances where IT is coached into putting
an ad into the paper asking for the world in qualifications and
then put in a low salary in the same ad. This is used to show the
"need" for more IT workers at a reduc
I have worked for consulting companies to support IBM mainframes for
awhile. I was laid off back in 2012 after 43 years because the long term
support people were making too much money. It would be interesting to see
how fast a batch problem gets fixed at 2am, by support personnel with no
specific c
Ed Gould wrote:
>Timothy: You make a broad brush stroke in blue.
True.
>There are *DOCUMENTED* instances where IT is coached into putting an ad into
>the paper asking for the world in qualifications and then put in a low salary
>in the same ad. This is used to show the "need" for more IT wor
Timothy:
You make a broad brush stroke in blue.
There are *DOCUMENTED* instances where IT is coached into putting an
ad into the paper asking for the world in qualifications and then put
in a low salary in the same ad.
This is used to show the "need" for more IT workers at a reduced
rate. Ju
gs/MartinPacker
From: Timothy Sipples
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Date: 03/07/2015 08:53
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One should not overinterpret the available wage evidence
One should not overinterpret the available wage evidence. Businesses do
have reasonable needs to bring in foreign workers and managers at least for
some period of time. Export-oriented businesses, for example, really do
need to have staff circulation to/from overseas in order to boost their
exports
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples
wrote:
>The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific
>"shortage"
On 7/2/2015 11:49 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote:
The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific
"shortage" is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged
short supply relative to general inflation.
To net i
I've heard that L1 visas are a way around H1B visa limits.
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples
wrote:
>The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific
>"shortage" is to look at the price of
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote:
>The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific
>"shortage" is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged
>short supply relative to general inflation.
>
>To net it out, we don't see evidence in these da
The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific
"shortage" is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged
short supply relative to general inflation. In this case, there's no great
mystery: we have solid wage/salary data in most developed countries. For
example, th
Good man. Humility is a virtue.
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Date : 01/07/2015 17:37:30 CEST
Sorry, it's my Interme
Sorry, it's my Intermediate English. Try "loose".
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Date : 01/07/2015 16:36:25 CEST
An interesting but hardly earth-shattering article. I've seen ad
An interesting but hardly earth-shattering article. I've seen advertisements
for "Senior" positions that required "3 years of experience and Intermediate
English". Let's see: we are going to turn these folks lose on users to gather
requirements, design the HMI, and build a bullet-proof system
Just FYI...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorrison/2015/07/01/it-professionals-dont-have-what-the-tech-industry-wants/
Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
CTO1, USNR-Retired
1969-1991
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