Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-17 Thread David Crayford
On 17/3/23 22:41, Matt Hogstrom wrote: Thanks for the information Lionel. It’s good to share the efforts and let folks know. Ideally, from my perspective, IBM should seriously consider adding an OpenTools offering in z/OS so customers do not have to piece meal these important tools. My

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-17 Thread Dave Jousma
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 10:41:53 -0400, Matt Hogstrom wrote: >Thanks for the information Lionel. It’s good to share the efforts and let >folks know. Ideally, from my perspective, IBM should seriously consider >adding an OpenTools offering in z/OS so customers do not have to piece meal >these

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
[01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 9:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:09:11 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >You no longer need to get the open tools for z/OS from Rocket Softw

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-17 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Thanks for the information Lionel. It’s good to share the efforts and let folks know. Ideally, from my perspective, IBM should seriously consider adding an OpenTools offering in z/OS so customers do not have to piece meal these important tools. My candidates would be: bash zsh git gzip

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-17 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
r is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Jousma Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-17 Thread Dave Jousma
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:35:18 -0500, Dave Jousma wrote: >On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:09:11 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > >>You no longer need to get the open tools for z/OS from Rocket Software - >>there is a new player in town - the z/OS Open Tools project. >> >> >> > >Lionel, As others have

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-17 Thread Dave Jousma
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:09:11 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >You no longer need to get the open tools for z/OS from Rocket Software - >there is a new player in town - the z/OS Open Tools project. > > > Lionel, As others have pointed out, the backend support is really the issue, not the quality

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-16 Thread Kirk Wolf
Well, if you're vendors use open source then you could have a commercial license that offers warranties and indemnities that cover it. We have offered that to our Co:Z customers for many years. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://coztoolkit.com On Thu, Mar 16, 2023, at 5:23 AM, ITschak

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-16 Thread ITschak Mugzach
If so, ask your vendors not to use open source anymore... ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon * On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 9:06 PM Matt Hogstrom wrote: > +1 … that is one of the biggest

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-15 Thread Matt Hogstrom
+1 … that is one of the biggest challenges for any tools. Mainframe customers (and even distributed) want provenance of code and a throat to choke. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg. -

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-15 Thread David Crayford
The major difference is that Rocket offer enterprise support for their open source tools which a lot of customers deem mandatory. YMMV. On 14/3/23 22:09, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: You no longer need to get the open tools for z/OS from Rocket Software - there is a new player in town - the z/OS Open

Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-14 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
You no longer need to get the open tools for z/OS from Rocket Software - there is a new player in town - the z/OS Open Tools project. You can find them at https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/#/ and they offer several different installation options from individual packages to a generalized