Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-15 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 3:56 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 20:46:49 +, Jackson, Rob wrote: > > >Before I found out about Co:Z I used shell scripts and REXX in OMVS to > copy the files back and forth from MVS datasets to OMVS fi

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-13 Thread Jackson, Rob
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work? [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] THANK YOU. Yes, PASSIVEIGNOREADDR is the key (and BTW you can then eliminate CCC with its security exposure). Shows what a kludge FTP is

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-13 Thread Charles Mills
quoting Yeah, I always just do it by hand in Outlook. I have a > key. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jackson, Rob Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How is Pa

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-13 Thread Jackson, Rob
My cruddy email application (Outlook) doesn't do the >-style quoting (or at least I don't know how to make it), so let me try below with tabs; it will probably be ugly. First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Gibney, Dave
age- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 1:36 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work? > > On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:21:47 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Charles Mills
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work? Thanks all! Thanks much! Let me try to do one reply here to hold down

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks all! Thanks much! Let me try to do one reply here to hold down the noise. > active mode is the one using PORT; passive mode uses PASV Thank you! It's a detail but I want to have the details right. Details are of the essence here. What *exactly* does the server send? On the client end I se

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 20:46:49 +, Jackson, Rob wrote: >Before I found out about Co:Z I used shell scripts and REXX in OMVS to copy >the files back and forth from MVS datasets to OMVS file systems (if sending to >the mainframe, they would follow up the copy with a SSH and execute a script >wit

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Jackson, Rob
lf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 4:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work? [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:21:47 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >Aside

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:21:47 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >Aside from, I think this is still true, absent Dovetail extensions, the >requirement that SFTP only works with ZFS/HFS files >> What's the intended recipient? If desktop or Open Systems, zFS/HFS should be acceptable. If z/OS, cumbersome

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
[IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jackson, Rob [rwjack...@firsthorizon.com] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 2:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work? Well, your point is made und understood, but active mode is the one using PORT; passive mode

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Gibney, Dave
AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work? > > X-Posted IBMMAIN and IBMTCP. Apologies. This is a question that is both > urgent for us and perhaps a little obscure. > > With Passive FTP, the server uses a PORT command to say to

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Gibney, Dave
n Bank > Mainframe Technical Support > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 2:01 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work? >

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
How about after throwing firewalls in to the mix? FTP's dual port architecture is simply a nightmare. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 1:01 PM Charles Mills wrote: > X-Posted IBMMAIN and IBMTCP. Apologies. This is a question that is both > urgent

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Jackson, Rob
rizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 2:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work? [External Email. Exercise caution

How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Charles Mills
X-Posted IBMMAIN and IBMTCP. Apologies. This is a question that is both urgent for us and perhaps a little obscure. With Passive FTP, the server uses a PORT command to say to the client "open the data connection on this IP address." Unfortunately with NAT that is an internal address that is meanin