Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-14 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 20:10 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How often does SMS update its free space information? When I have added volumes to a storage group, the old totals remain

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-11 Thread Mike Schwab
When I have added volumes to a storage group, the old totals remain until a dataset is allocated on a volume, then that volume's stats were updated to the storage group. Recently, I think IBM put in logic to update the storage group's totals when a volume is varied online or offline. During the

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 19:29 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How often does SMS update its free space information? Sorry, Kees. I was focusing on your original comment that you were using quiesced

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-10 Thread Neil Duffee
, there is an equal and opposite criticism.” “Systems Programming: Guilty, until proven innocent” John Norgauer 2004 -Original Message- From: Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM [mailto:kees.verno...@klm.com] Sent: April 9, 2014 09:40 Subject: Re: How often does SMS update its free space information? Good hint

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-10 Thread Graham Harris
[mailto:kees.verno...@klm.com] Sent: April 9, 2014 09:40 Subject: Re: How often does SMS update its free space information? Good hint for Interval and Dinterval. I found the following: [snip] DINTERVAL(nnn) : Directs SMS to allow nnn seconds (1 to 999) to elapse between reading device statistics

How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Hello group, We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we cannot explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes, on which SMS is supposed to allocate datasets only when all the enabled volumes in the storagegroup are filled to their max

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Asking the obvious, has the new SCDS been activated? snip We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we cannot explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes, on which SMS is supposed to allocate datasets only when all the enabled volumes in the

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Greg Shirey
: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How often does SMS update its free space information? Hello group, We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we cannot explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes, on which

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Please explain... Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 14:34 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How often does SMS update its free space information? Asking

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Staller, Allan
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How often does SMS update its free space information? Asking the obvious, has the new SCDS been activated? snip We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we cannot explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 15:01 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How often does SMS update its free space information? After using the DF/SMS ISPF panels to update the SCDS, it must be activated for the changes to take effect. I use the following sequence of commands: SETSMS

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
) - KLM Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How often does SMS update its free space information? Hello group, We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we cannot explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Staller, Allan
I seem to recall every 15 minutes, but I can't find a reference. You might try changing the volume to DISNEW instead of QUIESCE. snip Do you have an answer to the question: how often does SMS updates its administration? /snip

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread David Devine
Hi Kees, if you issue a d sms,options command it'll display your current settings and dinterval is the one in to look for; it probably has the default setting of 150 seconds. However i think your issue is more fundamental. From dfsms implementing System-managed storage SMS interfaces with the

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
that kind of reporting. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 15:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How often does SMS update its free space information? I seem

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
, allocates it again and fills it. So the space can be reused. Thanks, Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Devine Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 15:21 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How often does SMS update

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Greg Shirey
We use the Overflow flag on a defined spill group for this type of reporting. From the Help panel: Use the OVERFLOW field to specify whether the storage group is an overflow storage group, also referred to as Spill storage group. Overflow storage groups are reserved storage

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
have, and I want to know WHY. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 15:53 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How often does SMS update its free space information? We

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Greg Shirey
: Re: How often does SMS update its free space information? Greg, how is this an anser to my question? SMS selects my Quiesced volume and it is meant to do this, IF the enabled volumes are full. However the enabled volumes are not full, but still it goes to Quiesced volumes, secondary lists, spill