Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-22 Thread Russell Witt
Lizette, There is an option within CA 1 called SMS that can be set to EXT (EXTended). This will store the SMS Management class in the TMC record at the file-level. For Dataclas you would have to use the new (new with 14.0) TMOKEYxx member and have the Dataclas stored at the volume level in the

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-22 Thread R.S.
Yes, Data class is used for choosing tape parameters (MEDIAn, encryption, etc). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 21.10.2020 o 01:08, Jackson, Rob pisze: And yet it is for SMS-managed tape. Tape does not have SMS-managed datasets. First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 20.10.2020 o 23:26, Pew, Curtis G pisze: On Oct 20, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Jackson, Rob wrote: Tape dataclass is on the volume level. You can use 'd sms,vol(vv)'. That shows the storage group but not the dataclass. I’m pretty sure DATACLAS, for both disk and tape, is used during ACS

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Oct 20, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Jackson, Rob wrote: > > Maybe because you're on a DLM. It is a DLM, right? We’re part-way through a migration from an antique TS35000 to a DLm. -- Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.utexas.edu

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
z/OS Version 2 Release 4 DFSMS Implementing System-Managed Storage, SC23-6849-40, discusses SMS amanged tapes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jackson,

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Jackson, Rob
Well, that's weird indeed. CBR1180I does not appear to be a variable-content message. Maybe because you're on a DLM. It is a DLM, right? First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pew, Curtis G Sent: Tuesday,

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Jackson, Rob
And yet it is for SMS-managed tape. Tape does not have SMS-managed datasets. First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 6:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Gibney, Dave
There can be several datasets on a tape volume. DATACLAS wouldn’t be a volume attribute > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Pew, Curtis G > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:56 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How to determine the

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Oct 20, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Jackson, Rob wrote: > > Are you sure? I see LM DC: on my display; that's the construct where size is > defined in the Library Manager. Dataclass is definitely stored (I'd guess in > the VVDS, not sure honestly, but certainly in the LM for tape volumes); check >

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Jackson, Rob
Yep, data class is stored in the VVDS, plain as day, right between the storage class and the management class for each dataset that has one. If it doesn't have one, there are three bytes of X'00' between the storage class and length of the management class. First Horizon Bank Mainframe

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Jackson, Rob
Are you sure? I see LM DC: on my display; that's the construct where size is defined in the Library Manager. Dataclass is definitely stored (I'd guess in the VVDS, not sure honestly, but certainly in the LM for tape volumes); check your dataset records in a DCOLLECT run . . . . D

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Oct 20, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Jackson, Rob wrote: > > Tape dataclass is on the volume level. You can use 'd sms,vol(vv)'. That shows the storage group but not the dataclass. I’m pretty sure DATACLAS, for both disk and tape, is used during ACS routines and allocation in general, but isn’t

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Jackson, Rob
Tape dataclass is on the volume level. You can use 'd sms,vol(vv)'. First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How

Re: How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Lizette, I listed some volumes via CA-1, ISMF and LISTCAT and so far I cannot see the dataclas in the display. I'll poke around some more Carmen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

How to determine the Dataclas Used for a TAPE

2020-10-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am a little foggy on this Is there a way with CA-1 or ISMF to determine what Dataclas a tape dataset used? I have various sizes of tape in my TS7700. I am trying to see what dataclas was used for a specific dataset Thank you Lizette