IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread Frank Swarbrick
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS213-144/index.html&lang=en&request_locale=en -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.ed

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:56:01 -0700, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS213-144/index.html&lang=en&request_locale=en > Where I read: o Improved capability to process large data items to the full AMODE(31) capability. How impr

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 04/25/2013 11:35 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:56:01 -0700, Frank Swarbrick wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS213-144/index.html&lang=en&request_locale=en Where I read: o Improved capability to process large data ite

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread Ed Gould
Except we running machines in 64 mode:) Ed On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:56:01 -0700, Frank Swarbrick wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/ rep_ca/4/897/ENUS213-144/index.html&lang=en&request_locale=en Where I

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-04-25 18:35, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:56:01 -0700, Frank Swarbrick wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS213-144/index.html&lang=en&request_locale=en Where I read: o Improved capability to process large data it

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread John Gilmore
I had hoped that the Enterprise COBOL support for DFP that is apparently in the womb of time would make it into this release, but no . . . Still, COBOL is now a much better language than an examination of most of the source programs written it it would suggest. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - U

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread Frank Swarbrick
d want an explicit field to be DFP instead of PD.  Perhaps someone can give a good example of such? > > From: John Gilmore >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:43 PM >Subject: Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced &

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread Steve Comstock
On 4/25/2013 3:43 PM, John Gilmore wrote: I had hoped that the Enterprise COBOL support for DFP that is apparently in the womb of time would make it into this release, but no . . . Still, COBOL is now a much better language than an examination of most of the source programs written it it would s

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread John Gilmore
It is certainly because they have not been adequately trained to use what Enterprise COBOL has to offer; but the situation is worse: many shops actively discourage the use of its newer facilities. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA --

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread Steve Comstock
On 4/25/2013 4:11 PM, John Gilmore wrote: It is certainly because they have not been adequately trained to use what Enterprise COBOL has to offer; but the situation is worse: many shops actively discourage the use of its newer facilities. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA You're right the

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-25 Thread Scott Ford
I have customers who don't understand LE options ...for Cobol had on still on 1.7 z/os Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Steve Comstock wrote: > On 4/25/2013 4:11 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> It is certainly

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-26 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 4/25/2013 5:59 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: It's still not clear to me the situations when a business programmer would want an explicit field to be DFP instead of PD. Perhaps someone can give a good example of such? Aside from tracking the national debt ? Many financial institutions are usi

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-26 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 April 2013 17:59, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > It's still not clear to me the situations when a business programmer would > want an explicit field to be DFP instead of PD. Perhaps someone can give a > good example of such? If you must deal with very large and very small numbers in the same

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-26 Thread John Gilmore
I am glad that Tony Harminc responded to Frank Swarbrick's question, and his Cowlishaw reference is an excellent one. There is another, summary answer to Frank's question. All arithmetic that is currently done in packed decimal can better and should be done instead in DFP. John Gilmore, Ashland,

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-26 Thread Steve Comstock
On 4/26/2013 3:10 PM, John Gilmore wrote: I am glad that Tony Harminc responded to Frank Swarbrick's question, and his Cowlishaw reference is an excellent one. There is another, summary answer to Frank's question. All arithmetic that is currently done in packed decimal can better and should be

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-26 Thread Ed Finnell
Who's writing the compilers? In a message dated 4/26/2013 4:33:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, st...@trainersfriend.com writes: Hmmm. Who's imperious here? Who's practical? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive a

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-26 Thread John Gilmore
I do not expect significant use of DFP in existing COBOL systems. The COBOL community is a highly conservative one that comes to terms with new technology only very slowly or not at all, witness the recent discussion here of the wide continuing use of AMODE(24). I did think it useful to turn Fran

Re: IBM Enterprise COBOL V5 announced

2013-04-26 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 Apr 2013 15:00:24 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On 4/25/2013 3:43 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> I had hoped that the Enterprise COBOL support for DFP that is >> apparently in the womb of time would make it into this release, but no >> . . . >> >> Still, COBOL is now a much better