Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB

2016-11-01 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 20:08:29 -0500, Paul Gilmartin (000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu) wrote about "Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB" (in <9427079226127586.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>): > On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 00:31:51 +, David W Noon wrote: [snip] >&

Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB

2016-11-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Of Bill Woodger Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 1:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB >Why do you want a VB data set with all the records the same length? You've answered a different question. The reason for asking was not "that&#x

Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB

2016-11-01 Thread Bill Woodger
>Why do you want a VB data set with all the records the same length? You've answered a different question. The reason for asking was not "that's an impossible scenario, no-one in their right mind would ever want to do that", it was an attempt to elicit what the requirement at hand is. The "same

Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB

2016-11-01 Thread Bill Woodger
Perhaps I could have been clearer: If, with EXEC PGM=IEBGENER, your SORT product is used (because IEBGENER is aliased to ICEGENER), you will see ICE or WER message prefixes (prefices?). If, instead, in that invocation of IEBGENER, "IEBGENER" was used (because SORT could not be used), then you wi

Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB

2016-10-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 18:12:52 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Because some program only accepts V(B) data? Because of input dataset >concatenation or output DISP=MOD issues? As a test to see if some program >handles VB correctly? > With most IBM utilities, it's the other way around: they prefer FB.

Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB

2016-10-31 Thread Charles Mills
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Woodger Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 5:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB If, with EXEC PGM=IEBGENER, your SORT product is used, you will see ICE or WER message prefixes (preficies?). You want to copy an FB to a VB, with no

Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB

2016-10-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 00:31:51 +, David W Noon wrote: >On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 15:28:23 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote > >[snip] >> But can I be sure I'm using the real IEBGENER, not ICEGENER, or SYNCGENR, >> or WTFGENER? Will SYSPRINT tell me? Ah! SYSPRINT doesn't tell me it's >> ICEGENER, unless I

Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB

2016-10-31 Thread Bill Woodger
If, with EXEC PGM=IEBGENER, your SORT product is used, you will see ICE or WER message prefixes (preficies?). You want to copy an FB to a VB, with no further changes? Why? The point of variable-length records is that they are... variable in length? All yours are going to have the same length, f

Re: IEBGENER REblock FB--VB

2016-10-31 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 15:28:23 -0500, Paul Gilmartin (000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu) wrote about "IEBGENER REblock FB--VB" (in <5402639212763003.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>): [snip] > But can I be sure I'm using the real IEBGENER, not ICE

IEBGENER REblock FB--VB

2016-10-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I was surprised to discover that IEBGENER can reblock FB-->VB. By accident; I had intended to use REPRO. I can't readily find this described in the Utilities Ref, which mentions only: o Reblock or change the logical record length of a data set. ... but not change RECFM. But can I be sure I'm usin