Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <5784356129749080.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 02/16/2015 at 09:13 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Not directly, but by inference. Not by correct inference. >Repeating: Don't repeat it; *read* it. >o Members that contain User TTRs

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The active voice must always be ysed. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Charles Mills Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:19 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy Passive voice = weaseling "Mistakes were

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-16 Thread Lizette Koehler
to:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:14 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy > > On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:41:50 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > > >

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-16 Thread Charles Mills
Passive voice = weaseling "Mistakes were made ..." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01595E message

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:41:50 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > on 02/15/2015 at 03:24 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: > >>Should have been easy enough for you; GIYF. >Only if I didn't care about gfetting the same one you were looking at. > Granted. It would have helped if Lizette had supplied t

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <7400357838260860.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 02/15/2015 at 03:24 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Should have been easy enough for you; GIYF. Only if I didn't care about gfetting the same one you were looking at. >http://www-01.ibm

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:11:37 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >>The man page > >Read it more carefully. Or provide a URL to the text *IN CONTEXT* and >I'll explain it to you. > Should have been easy enough for you; GIYF. Regardless: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLT

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <9106630598347699.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 02/14/2015 at 09:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >The man page Read it more carefully. Or provide a URL to the text *IN CONTEXT* and I'll explain it to you. >cited earlier in the thr

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-15 Thread John McKown
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Isn't this a matter of semantics? > ​No offense, but how I hate that sentence. Everything in human communications is a "matter of semantics". If you ignore semantics, you don't communicate. Semantics is: "the branch of linguistics and logi

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 7:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy I thought you had to use binder to create

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:57:29 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: >I thought you had to use binder to create a program object from a load module. > I believe that in such a case IEBCOPY invokes Binder behind the scenes. >On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 19:36:07

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Schwab
I thought you had to use binder to create a program object from a load module. On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 19:36:07 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >> on 02/13/2015 at 02:47 PM, Paul Gilmarti

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 19:36:07 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > on 02/13/2015 at 02:47 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: > >>IOW, it's never possible to copy a load module to a PDSE? > >Not even close. You just need to use the correct utility functions to >do the copy. > The man page cited earlier

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <3720364681931755.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 02/13/2015 at 04:10 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >I suspect it's a Doc error, and that *not* all load modules contain >User TTRs. How would Fetch locate the first text record? Possibly

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <2921565644758290.wa.jeffrey.holstpnc@listserv.ua.edu>, on 02/13/2015 at 12:32 PM, Jeffrey Holst said: >During a test conversion of a PDS load library to a PDSE program >object library, What were you using to convert it? >IGW01595E What does the system messages manual say? Are you us

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <3072248069095874.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 02/13/2015 at 02:47 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >IOW, it's never possible to copy a load module to a PDSE? Not even close. You just need to use the correct utility functions to do the

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:34:00 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >Gil is right LOL. IBM is offering you the choice of not copying the members or >not copying the members. > I suspect it's a Doc error, and that *not* all load modules contain User TTRs. -- gil --

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-13 Thread Charles Mills
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy Explanation A PDS is being copied to a PDSE and some of the PDS members or aliases have user TTRS (which are incorrect for a PDSE) indicated by the directory entry. Members

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:08:23 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >Explanation > >A PDS is being copied to a PDSE and some of the PDS members or aliases have >user TTRS (which are incorrect for a PDSE) indicated by the directory entry. >Members that contain User TTRs in the directory entry are not supp

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
rey Holst >Sent: Feb 13, 2015 11:32 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy > >During a test conversion of a PDS load library to a PDSE program object >library, one of the error messages that I recieved was the following: >IGW01595E M

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-13 Thread Charles Mills
o:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Holst Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy During a test conversion of a PDS load library to a PDSE program object library, one of the error messages that I recieved was the

IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-13 Thread Jeffrey Holst
During a test conversion of a PDS load library to a PDSE program object library, one of the error messages that I recieved was the following: IGW01595E MEMBER RECVCSM CANNOT BE COPIED BECAUSE IT HAS NOTELISTS OR OTHER USER-TTRS . I am not sure what a NOTELIST or USER-TTRS mght be