Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
el (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 3:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC I was

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 10.04.2021 o 19:03, Farley, Peter x23353 pisze: Not every site allows just anyone to use DCOLLECT. For whatever reason, DCOLLECT on my employer's systems is SAF protected and unusable by any application programmer. Maybe I talk too much, but everytime I see "whatever reason" I ask wha

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Bob Bridges
Yeah, I remember that. But I'm a security guy - and on this particular machine I'm not just ~a~ security guy but ~the~ security guy. So that shouldn't be a problem :). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Patriotism is like family love. You love your family just for be

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Bob Bridges
I was translating from batch to REXX in my head. If it's possible (so I've read, but never tried it) to run ISPF in batch, if you allocate all the ISPF DDs, then it should be possible to allocate them in REXX and do the same thing. But if I do that anywhere but the READY prompt, the allocation

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Bob, You can run IEHLIST against the volume you are interested and then extract the dataset names from that output using DFSORT. //** //* RUN IEHLIST AGAINST THE VOLUME * //

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
o: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC Yes, that's what I meant, and I'm going to have to use the LM services anyway to transfer the PDSs so I may as well. (Technically I think I ~could~ use 3.4 in a REXX program. I've read (though I've never tried it

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Colin Paice
#x27;s systems is SAF protected and unusable by any > application programmer. > > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Bob Bridges > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 9:17 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subjec

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
2021 9:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC Ah, "DCOLLECT", I remember that. I once wrote a REXX for a storage manager to use DCOLLECT and ... and do something with its output, I forget exactly what. It was some years ago. But I remember thinking &quo

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Transfer pads? Use SDS or equipment. These programs can read at a volume level. בתאריך שבת, 10 באפר׳ 2021 ב-16:12 מאת Bob Bridges : > Yes, that's what I meant, and I'm going to have to use the LM services > anyway to transfer the PDSs so I may as well. > > (Technically I think I ~could~ use 3.4 i

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Colin Paice
Am I missing something... does IEHLIST LISTVTOC give you what you need? See here https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=statements-listvtoc-statement //VTOCLIST JOB ... //STEP1EXEC PGM=IEHLIST //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A //DD2 DD UNIT=*disk*,VOLUME=SER=11,DISP=OLD //SYSIN

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:12:33 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >... >(Technically I think I ~could~ use 3.4 in a REXX program. I've read (though >I've never tried it) that one can run ISPF in batch, if one wants to go to >the trouble of allocating all the necessary ISPF DDs. So I could probably > Copy th

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Bob Bridges
Ah, "DCOLLECT", I remember that. I once wrote a REXX for a storage manager to use DCOLLECT and ... and do something with its output, I forget exactly what. It was some years ago. But I remember thinking "hey, this DCOLLECT thingy is pretty handy; I should remember it and use it from time to t

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-10 Thread Bob Bridges
Yes, that's what I meant, and I'm going to have to use the LM services anyway to transfer the PDSs so I may as well. (Technically I think I ~could~ use 3.4 in a REXX program. I've read (though I've never tried it) that one can run ISPF in batch, if one wants to go to the trouble of allocating all

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
metz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC Yeah, that's what I said: I would use LISTC

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-09 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
What about DCOLLECT? It is also IDCAMS command. AFAIR it is quite flexible - generic volsers, a lot of useful information. -- Radoslaw Skorupka (looking for new job) Lodz, Poland W dniu 09.04.2021 o 17:55, Bob Bridges pisze: Yeah, that's what I said: I would use LISTCAT, but it won't work

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Yeah, that's what I said: I would use LISTCAT, but it won't work on uncatalogued datasets. And I see I left something out: I'm writing a REXX. I can do it in 3.4, but there are too many datasets; I'm tired of doing it manually, especially as I suppose I'll need the process more than once. ...Al

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-09 Thread Joe Monk
Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:28 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject:

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
alf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: LISTCAT for a VTOC I'm gonna kick myself, I just know I am, but if I know the answer to this already I can't dredge it up. I want to list all the datasets on a particula

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-08 Thread kekronbekron
You can also use ISPF services in REXX, or via ISPF batch. LMDINIT then LMDLIST, where LMDLIST allows you to scope by wildcard or volume. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, April 9, 2021 7:52 AM, David Spiegel wrote: > Hi John, Bob, > Please see File 112, the VTOC Command Processo

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi John, Bob, Please see File 112, the VTOC Command Processor. (In 1999, I had the honour of extending it to allow for 4-digit device addresses and other things). Regards, David On 2021-04-08 21:36, John McKown wrote: In TSO, I use ISPF option 3.4 with no DSN and something in the VOLUME. In

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-08 Thread Bob Bridges
Yeah, this is for a REXX, so I guess IEHLIST is what I need. Thanks, John. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The enemy will always tell you the cost of following the will of God -- but he will never tell you the cost of NOT following the will of God. -Henry Blackaby

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
Also, ADRDSSU DUMP, with the NORUN (or however the test, don't do option is specified) > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 6:36 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: LIS

Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-08 Thread John McKown
In TSO, I use ISPF option 3.4 with no DSN and something in the VOLUME. In batch, I use IEHLIST LISTVTOC. I think there is TSO command on the CBTTabe somewhere that does a TSO LISTVTOC. On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, 20:29 Bob Bridges wrote: > I'm gonna kick myself, I just know I am, but if I know the ans

LISTCAT for a VTOC

2021-04-08 Thread Bob Bridges
I'm gonna kick myself, I just know I am, but if I know the answer to this already I can't dredge it up. I want to list all the datasets on a particular DASD volume. I'd use LISTCAT LVL('hlq'), but these are not catalogued. Where's the TSO command for that? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.