Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-08-29 o 03:59, David Crayford pisze: On 29/08/2015 5:56 AM, Charles Mills wrote: http://mainframesproject.tumblr.com/ That really is a hall of shame! If you can access telnet then you can disrupt the system with a DDoS attack. Not every system is production system. Not every produ

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-29 Thread David Crayford
ERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks? I think the dude who wrote to article was looking for money or being a name in the industry. Every Z system I have been on you could not get

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-28 Thread Rob Schramm
u can > disrupt the system with a DDoS attack. > > > > > Charles > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Scott Ford > > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:42 PM > >

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-28 Thread David Crayford
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks? I think the dude who wrote to article was looking for money or being a name in the industry. Every Z system I have been on you could not get to a

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-28 Thread Charles Mills
http://mainframesproject.tumblr.com/ Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks? I think

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-28 Thread Scott Ford
I think the dude who wrote to article was looking for money or being a name in the industry. Every Z system I have been on you could not get to a login screen that easy. That's about 20+ shops , so dude give us details no "fluff" Scott On Friday, August 28, 2015, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2015-08-2

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-08-28 o 14:12, John McKown pisze: The die hard AmigaDOS people will be wanting an apology for being ignored -- yet again. The CP/M people have all died, so no worries from them. [grin]. Well, I still have working CP/M machine and feel quite alive. However I never tried to conne

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-28 Thread Klan, Rob (RET-DAY)
open to internet attacks? In <55df2edd.5090...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 08/27/2015 at 05:38 PM, "R.S." said: >What I understod from the lecture: >a) mainframes are old, obsolete, but unfotunately sometimes still in >use - which is a sin. If they do the job as well as

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-28 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:02 AM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2015-08-28 o 06:19, Timothy Sipples pisze: > >> Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >> >>> c) IMHO it is bad idea to make any system directly accessible from >>> Internet. Mainframe, any kind of Unix, Linux, Windows... >>> >> Which leaves...what? Is Wang

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-08-28 o 06:19, Timothy Sipples pisze: Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: c) IMHO it is bad idea to make any system directly accessible from Internet. Mainframe, any kind of Unix, Linux, Windows... Which leaves...what? Is Wang still selling machines? (But those were systems, too...) Well...

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-28 Thread Meir Zohar
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 8:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks? Hi All, I’m actually the person interviewed in this (f

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-27 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
mike.a.sch...@gmail.com (Mike Schwab) writes: > How about Multics? Designed from the start to be multi-user and > highly secure. some of the CTSS people went to the 5th flr and did Multics. Other of the CTSS people went to the IBM science center on the 4th flr and did cp67/cms, the internal netwo

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-27 Thread Phil
feel free to email me if you have questions or concerns (or are interested in how I did it). Phil > On Aug 27, 2015, at 9:00 PM, IBM-MAIN automatic digest system > wrote: > > Date:Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:38:05 +0200 > From:"R.S." <mailto:r.skoru...@bremult

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-27 Thread Mike Schwab
How about Multics? Designed from the start to be multi-user and highly secure. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: > Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >>c) IMHO it is bad idea to make any system directly accessible from >>Internet. Mainframe, any kind of Unix, Linux, Windows... > > W

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-27 Thread Timothy Sipples
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >c) IMHO it is bad idea to make any system directly accessible from >Internet. Mainframe, any kind of Unix, Linux, Windows... Which leaves...what? Is Wang still selling machines? (But those were systems, too...)

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <55df2edd.5090...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 08/27/2015 at 05:38 PM, "R.S." said: >What I understod from the lecture: >a) mainframes are old, obsolete, but unfotunately sometimes still in >use - which is a sin. If they do the job as well as or better than available alternatives then they're

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-27 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-08-19 o 00:26, Robert Harrison pisze: >From technologyreview.com: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540011/mainframe-computers-that-handle-our-most-sensitive-data-are-open-to-internet-attacks/ Really? What I understod from the lecture: a) mainframes are old, obsolete, but unfot

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-19 Thread Martin Packer
@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Vince Coen To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 19/08/2015 14:22 Subject: Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discuss

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-19 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Vince Coen wrote: > Err you have to read this a little closer : > > " leaders of the U.S. office of personal management .. explain " > > > So these people experienced it, what exactly ? > > Knowledge of any form of IT !! ? > > There again could have down a simple

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-19 Thread Vince Coen
acilitated a hack on sensitive data? Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Meir Zohar Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframes open t

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-19 Thread Greg Shirey
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks? Phil Young has been doing these talks for several years and some of the tools are posted on his Soldier of Fortran site. He is absolutely correct in that some sites are complacent in their "the mainframe is secur

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Meir Zohar
:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Robert Harrison Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 1:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframes open to internet attacks? >From technologyreview.com: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540011/mainframe-computers-that-handle-our-most-sensitive

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Rob Schramm
V.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Robert Harrison > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:27 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Mainframes open to internet attacks? > > From technologyreview.com: > > > http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540011/mainframe-com

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Charles Mills
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Robert Harrison Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframes open to internet attacks? >From technologyreview.com: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540011/mainfr

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/18/2015 at 06:26 PM, Robert Harrison >>> wrote: > From technologyreview.com: > > http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540011/mainframe-computers-that-handle- > our-most-sensitive-data-are-open-to-internet-attacks/ It's fun to read the comments on that article, denying that there's any

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/18/2015 at 06:26 PM, Robert Harrison >>> wrote: > From technologyreview.com: > > http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540011/mainframe-computers-that-handle- > our-most-sensitive-data-are-open-to-internet-attacks/ > > Really? Yes, really. Phil Young isn't the only one that talks abo

Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Robert Harrison
From technologyreview.com: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540011/mainframe-computers-that-handle-our-most-sensitive-data-are-open-to-internet-attacks/ Really? Robert Harrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive