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From: zMan
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Date: 01/26/2013 10:58 AM
Subject:Re: OT -- hackers
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On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:35
zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) writes:
> ObAnecdote (not directly related, but fun): a friend has lock picking
> skills (and picks). He swears the following is true.
annual hackers conference (origins predate use of "hacker" to refer to
crooks and attackers; initially I was the only ibm employee th
It is the "evil" intention that causes the problem, not the knowledge.
Don
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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:31 AM
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zMan, love it if true.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
understand. - Chinese Proverb
On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:52 AM, zMan wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
>
>> zMan, I know but can one stop
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
> zMan, I know but can one stop the people who hack and create viruses ,
> they are so destructive
I don't see how.
ObAnecdote (not directly related, but fun): a friend has lock picking
skills (and picks). He swears the following is true.
So
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Much the same argument applies to locksmiths. Differentiated in that there
> are clear non-adversarial applications of locksmithing; fewer for hacking.
> The exception that comes to mind is data recovery.
And a licensed locksmith <> some
zMan, I know but can one stop the people who hack and create viruses , they are
so destructive
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
understand. - Chinese Proverb
On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:58 AM, zMan wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 26,
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:58:18 -0500, zMan wrote:
>On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> Agree totally, but we need to convince the powers to be that hackers must
>> be licensed and monitored
>
>Hm. That's a stretch; I'm not particularly Libertarian/anti-regulation, bu
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
> John,
>
> Agree totally, but we need to convince the powers to be that hackers must
> be licensed and monitored
Hm. That's a stretch; I'm not particularly Libertarian/anti-regulation, but
this seems impractical.
--
zMan -- "I've got a mainf
John,
Agree totally, but we need to convince the powers to be that hackers must be
licensed and monitored
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
understand. - Chinese Proverb
On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:35 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
John,
I understand but showing people how hackers how to s a two edged sword..
The positive side is that it brings attention to it and the negative side it
shows potential hackers how to do it , that I have an issue with.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I m
Shane's point is important. The old question whose ox is being gored
can never be avoided.
I have heard applause for the government-sponsored hackers who
destroyed many of the centrifuges the Iranian government is/was using
to separate uranium isotopes.
Or again, It is no secret that the 'supers
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:37:03 -0500, zMan wrote:
>> I don't know why people do this or want to guess I was raised too
>> responsible.
>
>Well, it's for the intellectual challenge, plus the thrill.
...
>But messing with someone half a world
>away that you'll never meet just seems pointless.
At
ZMan, you got it exactly ..
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
understand. - Chinese Proverb
On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:37 PM, zMan wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
>
>> I don't know why people do
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
> I don't know why people do this or want to guess I was raised too
> responsible.
Well, it's for the intellectual challenge, plus the thrill. But yeah, I
don't get it--it's like random vandalism. I can see (but would never
commit) vandalis
I don't know why people do this or want to guess I was raised too
responsible.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
understand. - Chinese Proverb
On Jan 25, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Ed Finnell wrote:
> If you haven't gotten a
If you haven't gotten a full briefing on Red October malware it's pretty
sobering.
_http://www.pcworld.com/article/2025328/red-october-malware-discovered-after
-years-of-stealing-data-in-the-wild.html_
(http://www.pcworld.com/article/2025328/red-october-malware-discovered-after-years-of-steali
les
>>
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>> Behalf Of Scott Ford
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> Charles
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Scott Ford
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:07 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: OT -- hackers
>
> Does this concern you all,
Which item?
Charles
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Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:07 PM
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Subject: OT -- hackers
Does this concern you all, it does me
http
Does this concern you all, it does me
http://thehackernews.com/?m=1
Scott ford
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