SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-11 Thread Brenton, Ren
Back in 2000, someone, (Kriss Davis ), posed this question, (same subject as above), but at that time there was no answer. I was wondering, in the 15 years that have passed, if IBM has developed a solution, or perhaps someone has written a REXX to accomplish. Here is the original post: Kriss

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-11 Thread Dana Mitchell
I wrote a rexx once years ago to format and display a sequential file respecting carriage controls. At the time it was to make the memo to users from a CBPDO a little more readable. But as much as that document used '+' to suppress spacing for bold and underlining, I couldn't make get it to

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-11 Thread Mark Zelden
TBH, I haven't used IOF in about 17+ years now. But I thought even back then it had an option to honor CC when looking at spool output. Anyone? Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS ITIL v3 Foundation Certified mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-08-11 14:13, Dana Mitchell wrote: > I wrote a rexx once years ago to format and display a sequential file > respecting carriage controls. At the time it was to make the memo to users > from a CBPDO a little more readable. But as much as that document used '+' > to suppress spacing fo

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-08-11 14:13, Dana Mitchell wrote: > I wrote a rexx once years ago to format and display a sequential file > respecting carriage controls. At the time it was to make the memo to users > from a CBPDO a little more readable. But as much as that document used '+' > to suppress spacing fo

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Would be nice. If you open an RFE I will vote for it! https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/ > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 16:38:11 + > From: ren.bren...@bkfs.com > Subject: SDSF and Carriage Control > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Back in 2000, someone, (Kriss Davis ), p

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1867294601655777.wa.mitchdanagmail@listserv.ua.edu>, on 08/11/2015 at 03:13 PM, Dana Mitchell said: >since obviously you can't simulate overstrike on a display. Not obvious and not true, but the 3270 display stream doesn't support it. However, it does support high intensity, which is

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:23:06 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > on 08/11/2015 at 03:13 PM, Dana Mitchell said: > >>since obviously you can't simulate overstrike on a display. > >Not obvious and not true, but the 3270 display stream doesn't support >it. However, it does support high intensi

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread Ed Finnell
Some of these .txt are recognizable on big screen. Haven't tried to print. Probably a PG rating _www.testfiles.com/art/DECUS/_ (http://www.testfiles.com/art/DECUS/) In a message dated 8/13/2015 11:34:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu writes: A

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread Don Williams
IOF does and has for at least 14 years support carriage control emulated display (both RECFM=A or M), except for overprinting. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:26 PM Peter Hunkeler wrote: > >Ah! Here it is!: >asa - Interpret ASA/FORTRAN carriage control > But it's an incomplete implementation. Doesn't

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread John McKown
IOF is a SPOOL display product from Fischer International http://www.fisc.com/products/iof/ . Interactive Output Facility according to the site. I have a vague memory of it. It is not an SDSF work-alike but, back when I used it, it had some good features. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Peter Hun

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread Ed Finnell
Now I are confused. http://www.triangle-systems.com/ioftech.shtml The contact is for the same person at same number. Christine Carfgnoni In a message dated 8/13/2015 3:04:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, john.archie.mck...@gmail.com writes: http://www.fisc.com/products/iof/ . Interactive

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:03:44 -0500, John McKown wrote: >IOF is a SPOOL display product from Fischer International >http://www.fisc.com/products/iof/ . Interactive Output Facility according >to the site. I have a vague memory of it. It is not an SDSF work-alike but, >back when I used it, it had som

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-14 Thread Robinson, Dave (GE Capital NonGE)
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 13 August 2015 21:04 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF and Carriage Control IOF is a SPOOL display product from Fischer International https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fisc.com

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-14 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Is "-" part of the ASA standard or is it an IBMism? -- Peter Hunkeler >It's pretty hard to find a definitive document. I'd have greater trust in one >that wasn't published by IBM. While reading RFC 959 (FTP) for some other reasons, I stumbled across the following text: 3.1.1.5.2. CARRIAGE CON

AW: Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Ah! Here it is!: >asa - Interpret ASA/FORTRAN carriage control But it's an incomplete implementation. Doesn't support the "-" (space 3 lines) ASA CC. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

AW: Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>IOF does and has for at least 14 years support carriage control emulated >display (both RECFM=A or M), except for overprinting. Pardon my ignorance, but what is IOF? -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: AW: Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:26:11 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote: >>Ah! Here it is!: >asa - Interpret ASA/FORTRAN carriage control >But it's an incomplete implementation. Doesn't support the "-" (space 3 lines) >ASA CC. > Is "-" part of the ASA standard or is it an IBMism? It's pretty hard to find a d