Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-11 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb SMPE question On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:51:39 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 19:32:30 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: -Original Message- On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 5:40 AM ... Or do what I do and build the exclude list required to get RC=0. Why even spend the time to do that? The result is the same, the

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-10 Thread Skip Robinson
:Re: Dumb SMPE question Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 19:32:30 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: -Original Message- On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 5:40 AM ... Or do what I do and build

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:51:39 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote: If no PTFs will APPLY in a particular effort, you're treated to a special message and return code: GIM24801S ** NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE APPLY COMMAND. GIM20501IAPPLY PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAE6x8Q6u0p0-CXOnkOv=qp9uhfqm3uasggomnug5_c4dgob...@mail.gmail.com, on 02/06/2014 at 04:11 PM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com said: I hate having these PTFs in my SMPPTS that every time I install an RSU the APPLY tries to install this PTF again, and I spend more time researching why the

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 29b16432403d6c45a9bee5f0302d191721438...@vss-exchmb1.sfg.corp.LOCAL, on 02/06/2014 at 10:42 PM, Pommier, Rex rpomm...@sfgmembers.com said: Let me ask a general question about IBM packaging. Does IBM ever send a fixing PTF with a PRE(PE-PTF) instead of a SUP(PE-PTF)? Often. --

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-07 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
I hate having these PTFs in my SMPPTS that every time I install an RSU the APPLY tries to install this PTF again, and I spend more time researching why the PTF didn't APPLY. Then stop researching them. The ones to worry about are the ACTION and DOC holds. I completely agree. If a PTF cannot

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-07 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
... Or do what I do and build the exclude list required to get RC=0. Why even spend the time to do that? The result is the same, the PTFs don't get applied. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-07 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
I should probably go through the GLOBAL, identify all of these forlorn lost souls, and put them out of their everlasting misery via REJECT. The often neglected NOFMID DELETEFMID form of REJECT is your friend here... if or when you decide to address that loose end. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM,

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-07 Thread Pommier, Rex
bottom posting -Original Message- From: Robert A. Rosenberg [mailto:hal9...@panix.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:10 PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Cc: Pommier, Rex Subject: Re: Dumb SMPE question At 22:42 + on 02/06/2014, Pommier, Rex wrote about Re: Dumb SMPE

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:55:27 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: That depends on if the fix PTF contains all the elements in the PE-PTF or only some of them. If it contains all then it can SUP. If it does not it must PRE to pick up the elements that it does not contain - Note this can only occur if

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-07 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 5:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb SMPE question ... Or do what I do and build the exclude list required

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-06 Thread Mark Pace
Well sort of yes. This PTF - UA70446 HDZ1D10 FIXC HELD AA41551 HDZ1D10 ++HOLD(HDZ1D10) FIXCAT FMID(HDZ1D10) REASON(AA41551) RESOLVER(UA70446) CATEGORY(IBM.Function.VSAM-RLS) DATE(13266). UA70446 ERR HELD AA43280 HDZ1D10 ++HOLD(UA70446) FMID(HDZ1D10) REASON(AA43280) ERROR DATE(13347)

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb SMPE question Well sort of yes. This PTF - UA70446 HDZ1D10 FIXC HELD AA41551

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-06 Thread Ed Gould
Dave: Interesting reply. This is old information but it still applies IMO. I was applying TSOE CBPDO and ended up with 2400+ PTF's that wouldn't go on. I would never have gotten the product to apply if I had done the exclude list route. The root cause was a missing VTIOC(?) ptf and the 2400+

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 3:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb SMPE question Well sort of yes. This PTF - UA70446 HDZ1D10 FIXC HELD AA41551 HDZ1D10 ++HOLD(HDZ1D10

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-06 Thread Skip Robinson
Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 02/06/2014 02:30 PM Subject:Re: Dumb SMPE question Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-06 Thread Roger Bolan
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 3:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb SMPE question Well sort of yes. This PTF - UA70446 HDZ1D10 FIXC HELD AA41551 HDZ1D10 ++HOLD(HDZ1D10) FIXCAT FMID(HDZ1D10) REASON

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-06 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 22:42 + on 02/06/2014, Pommier, Rex wrote about Re: Dumb SMPE question: Mark, Let me ask a general question about IBM packaging. Does IBM ever send a fixing PTF with a PRE(PE-PTF) instead of a SUP(PE-PTF)? If the fixing PTF has a PRE of the PTF you deleted, would you not be causing

Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-05 Thread Mark Pace
Is there a way to unreceive maintenance? I have about 50 PTFs in my SMPPTS that will not APPLY for one reason or another. Is there a way to remove these PTFs from my system? -- The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent Mainline's positions or opinions Mark D Pace

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-05 Thread John McKown
REJECT them. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to unreceive maintenance? I have about 50 PTFs in my SMPPTS that will not APPLY for one reason or another. Is there a way to remove these PTFs from my system? -- The postings on this

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-05 Thread Ed Finnell
The SMP/E panels are pretty good. You can REJECT FORFMID or SOURCEID or individually. If they become required down the road can always re RECEIVE. In a message dated 2/5/2014 12:41:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, john.archie.mck...@gmail.com writes: REJECT them.

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-05 Thread Mark Pace
Thank you, Gentlemen. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: The SMP/E panels are pretty good. You can REJECT FORFMID or SOURCEID or individually. If they become required down the road can always re RECEIVE. In a message dated 2/5/2014 12:41:36 P.M. Central

Re: Dumb SMPE question

2014-02-05 Thread Paul Strauss
...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, Date: 02/05/2014 05:46 PM Subject:Re: Dumb SMPE question Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:40:06 -0500, Mark Pace wrote: Is there a way to unreceive maintenance? I have about 50 PTFs

Re: SMPE Question

2012-08-22 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
What would be the fastest, easiest way to rebuild a TARGET zone? Do you have a backup? If not, forget fastest and easiest; personally I'd want to know the safest method. To that end, you really need to receive and install DB2 V9 from scratch and build a new target zone. Otherwise, how can

Re: SMPE Question

2012-08-22 Thread Art Gutowski
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 08:48:19 -0500, Richard Sandford rsandf...@healthplan.com wrote: What would be the fastest, easiest way to rebuild a TARGET zone? It appears a product (DB2 v9) was accepted early last year and now I need to put on some maintenance, but it looks like some *Merge operations

Re: SMPE Question

2012-08-22 Thread Richard Sandford
Thanks, everyone, for your responses. Backups are gone, so I believe I'll use Kurt's suggestion, which is what I had as a Plan D, and I'll be sure. Rich Sandford -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: SMPE Question

2012-08-22 Thread John Gilmore
On 8/22/12, Richard Sandford rsandf...@healthplan.com wrote: Thanks, everyone, for your responses. Backups are gone, so I believe I'll use Kurt's suggestion, which is what I had as a Plan D, and I'll be sure. Rich Sandford

SMPE Question

2012-08-21 Thread Richard Sandford
What would be the fastest, easiest way to rebuild a TARGET zone? It appears a product (DB2 v9) was accepted early last year and now I need to put on some maintenance, but it looks like some *Merge operations have been done and now the target zone looks way out of wack. DLIB and DIST libraries