Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-17 Thread Scott Fagen
On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 15:25:52 -0800, Janet Sun <4jl...@gmail.com> wrote: >Hi Steve, > >Kristine Harper created that video some years ago. > >Hope you're doing well. > >-- Janet > Kristine _Bastin_ nee Harper - wife of SHARE President, Justin Bastin. Sadly (for us), she's no longer "working for a

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-14 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
z.sch...@gmail.com (z/OS scheduler) writes: > IMHO TCP/ip is part and parcel of this new "Open Source / Written by > Hackers" we are living in. > I cannot believe that C.C.I.T.T.would have recommended to IBM to make their > product more hack-able - unless Microsoft or SUN had big influence on > C.C

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-14 Thread z/OS scheduler
IMHO TCP/ip is part and parcel of this new "Open Source / Written by Hackers" we are living in. I cannot believe that C.C.I.T.T.would have recommended to IBM to make their product more hack-able - unless Microsoft or SUN had big influence on C.C.I.T.T. Op di 14 jan. 2020 om 09:51 schreef Dave Wade

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-14 Thread Dave Wade
Folks, Its easy to target TCPIP but IMHO the issues are to do with its universal use, and the libraries used to implement it. So I will just remind you all that what I think was one of the first nasty programs, the "CHRISTMA EXEC" worm, was actually spread over BITNET and VNET which at the tim

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
ary 13, 2020 11:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is a mainframe? In my opinion IBM helped to save the mainframe when they included a built-in highly performant TCP/IP stack in the operating system.Making the mainframe a more mainstream hardware server and more importa

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
, January 13, 2020 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is a mainframe? Eh? That's silly. There's nothing inherent about TCP/IP that makes things hackable. Any connectivity creates potential exposures, whether it's TCP/IP, SNA, bisync... On Sat, Jan 11, 2020

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is a mainframe? tcpip stack on z is just a proof that IBM recognized that the 70's passed. some of you may remember that while the industry standar

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
won the beauty contest with OSI. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Gerhard Adam Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is a mainframe

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-13 Thread Gerhard Adam
enterprise implementation. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Knutson, Samuel Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 8:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is a mainframe? In my opinion IBM helped to save the mainframe when they included a

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-13 Thread Charles Mills
Of course! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Knutson, Samuel Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 8:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is a mainframe? In my opinion IBM helped to save the mainframe

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-13 Thread Grant Taylor
On 1/13/20 9:50 AM, zMan wrote: Eh? That's silly. There's nothing inherent about TCP/IP that makes things hackable. Any connectivity creates potential exposures, whether it's TCP/IP, SNA, bisync... I do think there is something to be said about the size of the potential pool of attackers via

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-13 Thread ITschak Mugzach
and integrity equal to the balance of the > operating system. > > Best Regards, > Sam Knutson > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of z/OS scheduler > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 3:52 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-13 Thread zMan
Eh? That's silly. There's nothing inherent about TCP/IP that makes things hackable. Any connectivity creates potential exposures, whether it's TCP/IP, SNA, bisync... On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 3:53 PM z/OS scheduler wrote: > Welll, in my opinion the mainframe died when IBM allowed tcpip on their >

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-13 Thread Knutson, Samuel
20 3:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is a mainframe? Welll, in my opinion the mainframe died when IBM allowed tcpip on their servers. From that point onwards it just became another server that could be hacked via TCPIP ports. James O'Leary Op vr 10 jan. 2020 om 21:0

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-12 Thread scott Ford
Matt: I totally agree. A lot of folks dont realize its not always TCPIP and the Web, there's more to z/OS then those items. Many aspects that can be developed and used. I spent 15+ yrs in the VTAM/NCP/NPSI arena including hardware and software and it provided IMHO an excellent foundation. Regards

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-12 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I was talking to some of our new hires the other day and none of them had heard of SNA, APPLIDs or VTAM. I prefer to think of this as the evolution of the mainframe continuing to preserve investment over time :) Still, cloud continues to try and replicate the scalability of Sysplex and TCPIP

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-11 Thread z/OS scheduler
Welll, in my opinion the mainframe died when IBM allowed tcpip on their servers. From that point onwards it just became another server that could be hacked via TCPIP ports. James O'Leary Op vr 10 jan. 2020 om 21:05 schreef Steve Smith : > Well, it is Friday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0-pL

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-10 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 2:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is a mainframe? I don't know the provenance... grabbed off an internal

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-10 Thread Janet Sun
gt; From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > > Behalf Of Steve Smith > > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 1:05 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: What is a mainframe? > > > > Well,

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-10 Thread Charles Mills
LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 2:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is a mainframe? I don't know the provenance... grabbed off an internal IBM forum. Seems I heard/saw something about an automatic text-to-video generator. Which seems

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-10 Thread Steve Smith
n a 4341? > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Steve Smith > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 1:05 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: What is a mainframe? > > Well, i

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-10 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
ssage- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):What is a mainframe? Well, it is Friday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0-pLcgq-2M It's also about a bank :

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-10 Thread Charles Mills
Was the script written by Watson? Was this animated on a 4341? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: What is a mainframe

What is a mainframe?

2020-01-10 Thread Steve Smith
Well, it is Friday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0-pLcgq-2M It's also about a bank :-) -- sas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO