Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo
ERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 12:53:48 PM Subject: Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ? Carmen Vitullo wrote: > yep ! OLTEP I believe HAD to run V=R - talk about way back :) I seem to recall, though I have not run it in a Long Time, that OLTEP itself was happy wi

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread John Eells
Carmen Vitullo wrote: yep ! OLTEP I believe HAD to run V=R - talk about way back :) I seem to recall, though I have not run it in a Long Time, that OLTEP itself was happy with V=V, but that some of the OLTs (online tests) required V=R, including one or more of the 3420 OLTs. I don't plan to

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
6-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo
yep ! OLTEP I believe HAD to run V=R - talk about way back :) Carmen - Original Message - From: "Steve Thompson" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 12:07:00 PM Subject: Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ? I have forgotten the name of i

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Steve Thompson
I have forgotten the name of it, but IBM had a utility for checking terminals (I think that was it), and it ran V=R. I just can't remember the name of it anymore -- probably because I haven't heard of it being used for over 20 years now. And just before I hit SEND, someone posts about OLTEP. T

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Richards, Robert B.
So much for a 30yr old memory. :-) Thanks Greg! Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Dyck Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 12:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Greg Dyck
On 6/9/2017 11:47 AM, Richards, Robert B. wrote: I seem to remember that V=R was used with MVS/XA running under VM/XA SF and you could bounce VM/XA SF and the guest would stay up. That was a *VM* V=R user, not a MVS V=R address space. Regards, Greg ---

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Over 20 years ago for me. Never looked back. Greg Dyck June 9, 2017 at 12:43 PM It has been 30 years since I saw a program that actually required V=R to run successfully, and that was only for specific OLTEP test programs that dynamically modified CCW chains. beli

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Richards, Robert B.
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ? On 6/8/2017 10:44 AM, John McKown wrote: > This still seems to be supported in z/OS 2.2. Does anyone need to run > a program V=R in today's world? I'm just curious because this support > seems

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Greg Dyck
On 6/8/2017 10:44 AM, John McKown wrote: This still seems to be supported in z/OS 2.2. Does anyone need to run a program V=R in today's world? I'm just curious because this support seems to be a "waste" of protect keys 10 through 15. Of course, if those keys were "freed up", what could they be us

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Allan Staller wrote: >IEFUSI could, but is it worth the work? Thanks. No, it is not the work and risks worth! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send e

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Steve Smith
rsday, June 8, 2017 8:48 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ? > > On 06/08/2017 11:45 AM, John McKown wrote: > > This still seems to be supported in z/OS 2.2. Does anyone need to run > > a program V=R in today's wor

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Allan Staller
IEFUSI could, but is it worth the work? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ? Allan

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Allan Staller wrote: >Ripped it out of my last shop. The SMF30 has a bit(?) that indicates V=R was >used. That is SMF30SFL, 'Storage Flag' in Storage and Paging Section, V=R is indicated by bit 0. >Spun 90 days worth of type 30's to prove it was not in use and then removed >the spec. Ca

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Allan Staller
mpson Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 8:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ? On 06/08/2017 11:45 AM, John McKown wrote: > This still seems to be supported in z/OS 2.2. Does anyone need to run > a program V=R in today's world? I'm

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >John McKown pisze: >> This still seems to be supported in z/OS 2.2. Does anyone need to run a >> program V=R in today's world? I'm just curious because this support seems to >> be a "waste" of protect keys 10 through 15. Of course, if those keys were >> "freed up", wha

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-09 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-06-08 o 17:45, John McKown pisze: This still seems to be supported in z/OS 2.2. Does anyone need to run a program V=R in today's world? I'm just curious because this support seems to be a "waste" of protect keys 10 through 15. Of course, if those keys were "freed up", what could they

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-08 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
frame Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 6:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ? On 06/08/2017 11:45 AM, John McKown wrote: > This still seems to be supported in z/OS 2

Re: curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-08 Thread Steve Thompson
On 06/08/2017 11:45 AM, John McKown wrote: This still seems to be supported in z/OS 2.2. Does anyone need to run a program V=R in today's world? I'm just curious because this support seems to be a "waste" of protect keys 10 through 15. Of course, if those keys were "freed up", what could they be

curious: Anybody still use ADDRSPC=REAL ?

2017-06-08 Thread John McKown
This still seems to be supported in z/OS 2.2. Does anyone need to run a program V=R in today's world? I'm just curious because this support seems to be a "waste" of protect keys 10 through 15. Of course, if those keys were "freed up", what could they be used for? -- Prof: So the American governme