I agree with most of the sentiments expressed here. But that ship has sailed.
And it is far from true that every operating system provides support for every
hardware facility.
Back when TRAP2 and TRAP4 were introduced (about 25 years ago), OS/390
development (it was pre-z/OS) was not even
On 3/1/2023 4:01 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
Am 01.03.2023 um 19:51 schrieb Martin Trübner:
I know of one big z/OS installation that has a debugger in use that
uses TRAP (and the author is on IBM-main as well)
That's me ... but as I said in the other mail, I am not the author of
the
Am 01.03.2023 um 19:51 schrieb Martin Trübner:
I know of one big z/OS installation that has a debugger in use that
uses TRAP (and the author is on IBM-main as well)
That's me ... but as I said in the other mail, I am not the author of
the debugger;
I am only the maintainer today, and I
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What I would like to know is when z/OS development will finally manage to
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Traditionally, the business case would have been that a debugging facility
like this led to increased ability to exploit the platform, thus leading to
more usage and more sales. Whether that still applies-whether IBM is
interested in that for IBM zSystems-is unclear. With cloud, cloud, and more
I did develop a fully featured debugger solely on TRAP for VSE.
I did that in 2000 as proof of concept or better to show that TRAP is
not there for "year 200o fix up" as pops did say at that time.
Originally it was object code only in CICS (just to see that it works)-
meanwhile I support
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> > There is a lot of AI related stuff in the announcement, including a new
> > SMF explorder that le
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<*Sigh*> Yes, I do understand the "business justification/resource allocation"
't run afoul of IP
concerns.
Peter
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Peter F wrote:
What I would like to know i
Peter F wrote:
What I would like to know is when z/OS development will finally manage to find
the round tuits to actually implement a supported API to actually be able to
USE the TRAP (and compare-and-trap) instructions introduced to the architecture
so long ago I have forgotten which zArch
Anything that involves Liberty or zOSMF immediately dampens my enthusiasm...
- KB
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On Wednesday, March 1st, 2023 at 6:51 AM, David Crayford
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> Interesting article on IBM SMF Explorer with Python
> https://zos-hot-topics.com/2022/SMF-Explorer/. Looks like
Interesting article on IBM SMF Explorer with Python
https://zos-hot-topics.com/2022/SMF-Explorer/. Looks like the young'uns
are gonna have some fun playing with SMF data in Jupyter.
On 1/3/23 06:30, David Crayford wrote:
There is a lot of AI related stuff in the announcement, including a
On 2/28/2023 4:20 PM, Farley, Peter wrote:
An API that allows me to set the DUCT TRAP fields (go here on a TRAP event
occurring, use this area for TRAP-time information, set/retrieve the TRAP user
words, etc.) and at the specified TRAP-handling address access the
TRAP-generated area(s) when a
, February 28, 2023 7:07 PM
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On 2/28/2023 3:42 PM, Farley, Peter wrote:
> What I would like to know is when z/OS development will finally manage to
> find the round tuits to actually implement a supported API to ac
On 2/28/2023 3:42 PM, Farley, Peter wrote:
What I would like to know is when z/OS development will finally manage to find
the round tuits to actually implement a supported API to actually be able to
USE the TRAP (and compare-and-trap) instructions introduced to the architecture
so long ago I
What I would like to know is when z/OS development will finally manage to find
the round tuits to actually implement a supported API to actually be able to
USE the TRAP (and compare-and-trap) instructions introduced to the architecture
so long ago I have forgotten which zArch generation they in
W dniu 28.02.2023 o 18:33, Tony Harminc pisze:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 10:36, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
This is the US Version of the announcement letter
https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/E
NUS223-013/index.html=en_locale=en
Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter
On 1/3/23 06:37, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Telum isn't really an AI engine, but it has, e.g., vector capabilities
motivated by AI applications. I expect to see it used for more than AI.
Naturally, it's not an AI engine on its own; software is required
practical than it used to be.
;-)
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> Te
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There is a lot of AI related stuff in the announcement, including a new
SMF explorder that leverages Jupyter Notebooks
There is a lot of AI related stuff in the announcement, including a new
SMF explorder that leverages Jupyter Notebooks. The z16 Telum chip has
integrated AI on die and a C library was published. Does anybody know if
this has been ported to Python numpy or tensorflow?
In z/OS 3.1, AI and
Puerto Rico has four IBM mainframe data centers.
With two CECs in one of them.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 1:34 PM Tony Harminc wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 10:36, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
>
> > This is the US Version of the announcement letter
> >
> >
> >
>
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:35:49 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
>This is the US Version of the announcement letter
>
>https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/E
>NUS223-013/index.html=en_locale=en
>
ITYM:
IIRC they use the same regional breakouts for Z, I, P, and when they had it, X
series machines.
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 10:36, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
> This is the US Version of the announcement letter
>
>
> https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/E
> NUS223-013/index.html=en_locale=en
>
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