ent: Monday, October 06, 2014 1:41 PM
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Subject: Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)
lon.a.storr@mail.mil (Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC , US) wrote:
> I intend to build a test z/OS image to test my beliefs. If
> system-initialization functi
lon.a.storr@mail.mil (Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC , US) wrote:
I intend to build a test z/OS image to test my beliefs. If
system-initialization functions as per my current beliefs, I don't see any
reason why this site can't move forward. They would need to understand that
certain tasks pe
Storr, Lon A wrote:
>1) SYS1 is SMP/E target
All of IBM's products? Or just some of them? For example, my SYS1.HRF* are in
MCAT and CEE.*, IGY.* and similar also.
> thanks Elardus for your confirmation regarding SMS.
It was my big pleasure. I'm very humbled that I could be of service to you.
heers,
Alan
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Of John Eells
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)
Basically, if I recall co
Basically, if I recall correctly*, the ServerPac dialog MCAT=Y flag
means one of more of:
- The data set absolutely must be in the master catalog or something
won't work. What "something" might be is left as an excercise to the
Alert Sysprog, but it ranges from "the system won't IPL" to thing
Storr, Lon A wrote:
> I am almost positive that the SCDS is not referenced during system
> initialization and, therefore, need not be MCAT-cataloged (if it's not called
> SYS1.**).
Feel free to be 100% positive. Our SCDS/ACDS/etc are in UCAT and have other HLQ.
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Eng
Friday, October 03, 2014 9:38 AM
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Subject: Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)
This is rather more complex than it appears on the surface and there are some
subtleties. For instance, user catalogs can be opened after a certain point in
IPL and befo
Just curious: WHY?
What is the reason to put the things out of MCAT?
Of course I mean those object which IBM said" MCAT YES".
How many objects are covered? Few dozens?
Is the goal worth the complication?
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 2014-10-03 o 15:37, John Eells pisze:
This is
This is rather more complex than it appears on the surface and there are
some subtleties. For instance, user catalogs can be opened after a
certain point in IPL and before the CATALOG address space (CAS) comes
up, but they will not be able to be unallocated later using F
CATALOG,UNALLOCATE bec
lume identified through load parm.
Thanks,
Bart
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 8:08 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UN
Apologies to the OP, I know we are drifting from your MCAT story, but ... ;-)
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>I'm not sure about MCAT, but RACF db *can* bo on SMS volume, because it need
>*not* to be PSU. It can be PS. What cannot be done is move RACF db during
>system operations. The simplest method
W dniu 2014-10-03 o 09:03, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze:
[...]
What about SYS1.PARMLIB and friends?
RACF database? Ok, granted my books just say 'Each data set in a RACF database
must be a contiguous, single-extent,
non-VSAM data set that resides on a DASD volume, and it must be cataloged.'
(and
Storr, Lon A wrote:
>It appears that some of the old restrictions regarding MCAT-cataloging of
>installation-allocated datasets that are accessed during system initialization
>(usually for OUTPUT) have been relaxed.
Where do you see that? Based on what?
>I have verified that page datasets must
W dniu 2014-10-03 o 00:12, Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC (US) pisze:
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Hello List,
It appears that some of the old restrictions regarding MCAT-cataloging of
installation-allocated datasets that are accessed during system initialization
(usually for OUTPU
IIRC, So during an IPL until SMS is UP, any datasets needed have to be in the
mcat. Once SMS is up, UCATs are available and then the datasets can have
different access paths.
Does this help?
Lizette
>On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC (US)
> wrote:
>> Classification:
Those pages address volumes, not catalogs
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> Behalf Of Mike Schwab
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:01 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: z/OS datasets that m
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246982.pdf
PDF page 63-64, printed page 47-48.
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC (US)
wrote:
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> Hello List,
>
> It appears that some of the old restrictions regarding MCAT-catalog
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Hello List,
It appears that some of the old restrictions regarding MCAT-cataloging of
installation-allocated datasets that are accessed during system initialization
(usually for OUTPUT) have been relaxed.
I have verified that page datasets must still
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