DTCPRS058I Line 431: GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation

2007-03-29 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Error messages aren't always clear but this one in TCPIP 5.2 regarding the GATEWAY statement takes the prize, I think. Chuckie must have worked vary hard to come up with this one. Jim Bohnsack

Re: DTCPRS058I Line 431: GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation

2007-03-29 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Error messages aren't always clear but this one in TCPIP 5.2 regarding the GATEWAY statement takes the prize, I think. Chuckie must have worked vary hard to come up with this one. Jim Bohnsack I don't know what exactly has changed, but this has been mentioned here before. I've

Re: DTCPRS058I Line 431: GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation

2007-03-29 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Shimon--I think that we're talking about different oddities. I was commenting, specifically, on the use of the word deprecated. The message is: DTCPRS058I Line /line /GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation. Explanation: The GATEWAY statement specified is not in the recommended

Re: DTCPRS058I Line 431: GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation

2007-03-29 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize that was your intention. Shimon--I think that we're talking about different oddities. I was commenting, specifically, on the use of the word deprecated. The message is: DTCPRS058I Line /line /GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation. Explanation:

Re: DTCPRS058I Line 431: GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation

2007-03-29 Thread Mike Walter
Perhaps I'm the only one who finds that message to be not very helpful. Perhaps so. It's only an Information-level message. Deprecated isn't really a new term in my experience. I've seen it used in various places (although mostly by IBM, and therein mostly by Alan/Chuckie) to describe use

Re: DTCPRS058I Line 431: GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation

2007-03-29 Thread Miguel Delapaz
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 03/29/2007 08:09:37 AM: Perhaps I'm the only one who finds that message to be not very helpful. Perhaps so. It's only an Information-level message. Deprecated isn't really a new term in my experience. I've seen it used

Re: DTCPRS058I Line 431: GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation

2007-03-29 Thread Mike Walter
Nope! He's the architect, right? If a bridge falls down, the architect is blamed right along with the guy who installed all the rivets wrong. Alan is just under-depreciated. ;-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the

Re: DTCPRS058I Line 431: GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation

2007-03-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/29/2007 at 08:21 MST, Miguel Delapaz/Endicott/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it wrong to relish the fact that Alan gets blamed for stuff that's not his fault? :-) Here I am, silently taking arrows for the team, when all of a sudden there is a knife in between my ribs. Et

MSGTRAP/Trapping MSGs

2007-03-29 Thread Ian S. Worthington
There used to be a VMTOOLS package called MSGTRAP which could be called before a long-running program to ensure that any incoming messages neither put the console into HOLDING status nor where lost (they could be displayed on completion). It looks like this sadly never made it to the public

Re: MSGTRAP/Trapping MSGs

2007-03-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
Would not the combination of SPOOL CONS * START TERM MORE 0 0 TERM HOLD OFF Prior to starting the program accomplish the result? Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian S. Worthington Sent: Thursday,

Re: MSGTRAP/Trapping MSGs

2007-03-29 Thread Harding, Mike
There's Arty Ecock's IUCVTRAP package. It should be on the repository of the old VM Tools tape - whose location escapes me at the moment. Mike Harding EDS VM National Capability 134 El Portal Place Clayton, Ca. USA 94517-1742 * phone: +01-925-672-4403 * Fax: +01-925-672-4403 *

Re: MSGTRAP/Trapping MSGs

2007-03-29 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
I believe there is also SPOOL CON NOTERM (but I haven't used it in ages). Shimon Would not the combination of SPOOL CONS * START TERM MORE 0 0 TERM HOLD OFF Prior to starting the program accomplish the result? Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM

Re: DTCPRS058I Line 431: GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation

2007-03-29 Thread David Boyes
On Thursday, 03/29/2007 at 08:21 MST, Miguel Delapaz/Endicott/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it wrong to relish the fact that Alan gets blamed for stuff that's not his fault? :-) Only if you don't wash your hands thoroughly afterwards...

Re: MSGTRAP/Trapping MSGs

2007-03-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
Yes, there is the NOTERM option. Yet another way would be to simply disconnect the machine after starting the program (with the console spooled, of course). Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shimon

Re: DTCPRS058I Line 431: GATEWAY format deprecated, consult documentation

2007-03-29 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 29, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: But you know what they say: Guilty dog barks first. :-) If only it were Friday, we could say He who smelt it, dealt it. Adam

Re: MSGTRAP/Trapping MSGs

2007-03-29 Thread Neale Ferguson
One thing I don't like about NOTERM is that output from the virtual HMC (i.e. messages generated by SERVC instruction) ignores the NOTERM option and appears on the console. On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 10:19 -0700, Schuh, Richard wrote: Yes, there is the NOTERM option. Yet another way would be to

Re: MSGTRAP/Trapping MSGs

2007-03-29 Thread Kris Buelens
Why did nobody mention WAKEUP? Not the same as TERM HOLD OFF: the messages will be eaten by WAKEUP and be displayed afterwards. WAKEUP +0 (IUCVMSG ... perform the work start a REXX EXEC that basically performs: do forever 'WAKEUP +0 (IUCVMSG' if rc=2 then leave

Re: MSGTRAP/Trapping MSGs

2007-03-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
If you have a long running program, WAKEUP is not actively grabbing the messages; they are being queued by CP. They do not get eaten until the program ends. The problem is what happens if the number of messages received is greater than the number that CP will queue. The messages discarded may

Re: MSGTRAP/Trapping MSGs

2007-03-29 Thread Kris Buelens
Sorry Richard: WAKEUP is actively grabbing messages: even when your long running program is active, WAKEUP's first level interrupt handler is active too. WAKEUP will queue the IUCV messages in its own storage. It is not only CP that queues. When WAKEUP can't catch up CP queues too. The