Re: Trapping output right after LOGON

2010-03-05 Thread Kris Buelens
CP has always assumed That's true in the VM/XA line-of-code. In VM/SP, CP did it right: VM READ stayed VM READ. 2010/3/5 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com On Wednesday, 03/03/2010 at 03:53 EST, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: The cause is what in my eyes is a very old bug, it

GDPS xDR, I/O-Timing and MIH

2010-03-05 Thread Tobias Doerkes
this mail is crossposted to IBMVM and LINUX-390 hi lists, we are a GDPS shop for several years. recently we implemented GDPS xDR in our sandbox environment. now we found out that there is a different handling of MIH and I/O-Timing in z/VM as it is in z/OS. in case the MIH time is

Re: Adding minidisk to SFS in Multi-User Mode

2010-03-05 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
I just went through this a couple of weeks ago and had the same oddities. I bet its looking at the wrong filepoolid. Spell it out in the command. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Thu 3/4/2010 2:24 PM To:

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Bill Munson
Jon, When you update anything on CF1 it is CURRENT for the next IPL. the parm disks CF2 and CF3 are backup disks that you can IPL from if you need to GO BACK for any reason. I would not copy anything from CF1 to CF2 or CF3 myself. When you apply SERVICE and PUT2PROD this will copy CF1 to CF2

Re: Adding an CPOWNED volume

2010-03-05 Thread Mark Wheeler
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 Graeme Moss said: Just to clarify. If you didn't have volume in CPOWNED list in SYSTEM CONFIG at last IPL and you have a spare SLOT (ie marked as RESERVED) then you need to run DEFINE CPOWNED command to place the volume in the designated SLOT. If you do not have

Re: GDPS xDR, I/O-Timing and MIH

2010-03-05 Thread Marcy Cortes
Wow, someone else! We have a full production implementation and we just discovered this too. We're having those discussions with IBM now. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee,

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread August Carideo
Bill, I leave cf3 alone, but after I know all is well after a IPL etc I copy the changes to cf2, before I change cf1 again, so as you say if you need to fall back (1 change) cf3 leave alone now you have me thinking about this Augie

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Lesseg, Jon
Bill, Thanks for clarifying this. The SERVICE and PUT2PROD is still a black box for me at this time. I'll keep my own copies of SYSTEM CONFIG pre changes also. It's nice to know there are knowledgeable folks with real world experience out there to bounce questions to. This may be just the

Re: GDPS xDR, I/O-Timing and MIH

2010-03-05 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Our D/R full volume backups are done on MVS during the night. I just do a CP SET MITIME cuu-cuu OFF just before they start and set it back on when they're done. Jim

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Mike Walter
There any many ways to do this, each with their own merits. Understanding how SERVICE and PUT2PROD silently update the CF1 and CF2 disks is important. I prefer to think of CF2 as a resource to be used only if CF1 gets trashed (my human, hardware, or any other error). I wrote a local EXEC to

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Somewhere (I have since tried to find the source, but have failed) I have a CPCONFIG EXEC that automates much of the maintenance of CF1 and CF3. It includes maintaining previous generations of SYSTEM CONFIG: cpconfig DMSVML2060I MAINT CF1 linked MR as 0CF1 file mode I The following *SYSTEM

Question about machine type and model

2010-03-05 Thread Daniel Allen
In z/OS, the command 'D M=CPU' shows the machine type and model. In z/VSE, the command 'SIR' shows the machine type and model. I know the 'Q CPU' shows the machine type. Is there any way I can find the model under z/VM ?

Re: Question about machine type and model

2010-03-05 Thread zMan
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Daniel Allen dal...@serena.com wrote: In z/OS, the command 'D M=CPU' shows the machine type and model. In z/VSE, the command 'SIR' shows the machine type and model. I know the 'Q CPU' shows the machine type. Is there any way I can find the model under z/VM ?

Re: Adding minidisk to SFS in Multi-User Mode

2010-03-05 Thread Hodge, Robert L
Frank, The POOLDEF file should not be the production POOLDEF, rather a work file with only the new DDNAME. File: TEMP POOLDEF A DDNAME=MDK4VDEV=203 GROUP=2 BLOCKS=0 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent:

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Mike Walter
The CPCONFIG EXEC was my brainchild, the one to which I was referring in my previous posts. It does NOT maintain IBM's SERVICE and PUT2PROD method of using CF2 as a backup disk. You probably downloaded it from this listserve sometime since 2005. The last update record (at the bottom in the

Re: Adding minidisk to SFS in Multi-User Mode

2010-03-05 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
In working with IBM on this, the problem was: filepool minidisk vmserva Although you can only have one filepoolid per fileserver, it cannot tell that VMSERVA has a filepoolid of vmsysa: filepool minidisk vmserva vmsysa: So, both need to be specified. (Otherwise VMSYS: is assumed)

Re: Question about machine type and model

2010-03-05 Thread Mike Walter
If you are using the CMS Pipelines Runtime Library rather than the Endicott Lab-distributed Pipes, the STSI stage should give you what you are looking for. Without translating the hex values, the simplest use here displays: pipe stsi 111 | CONS IBM

Re: Question about machine type and model

2010-03-05 Thread Daniel Allen
Thanks, Mike. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: If you are using the CMS Pipelines Runtime Library rather than the Endicott Lab-distributed Pipes, the STSI stage should give you what you are looking for. Without translating the hex values, the

Re: Question about machine type and model

2010-03-05 Thread Sterling James
If you are using the CMS Pipelines Runtime Library rather than the Endicott Lab-distributed Pipes, If pipes doesn't work, on MAINT's 193 is STSIUSE SAMPEXEC - Please consider the environment before printing this email and any attachments. This e-mail

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Billy Bingham
I would like to have a copy of it. Billy On 5 Mar 2010 at 12:23, Mike Walter wrote: The CPCONFIG EXEC was my brainchild, the one to which I was referring in my previous posts. It does NOT maintain IBM's SERVICE and PUT2PROD method of using CF2 as a backup disk. You probably downloaded

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Yes, please do so, thanks! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Billy Bingham Sent:

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Schuh, Richard
How well does that fit with massive CP updates such as VPARS and VTAPE? Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: Question about machine type and model

2010-03-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/05/2010 at 03:35 EST, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: The Q CPUID command does show you the model information as well as the machine type Alas, the documentation for QUERY CPUID is wrong. Please apply the following TNL: identifies the machine type. Alan

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Mike Walter
Ask, and ye shall receive. This was started before SERVICE or PUT2PROD were generally available, but continues to work. YMMV - works great here. As always, it's a good idea to try something new on a second level test system, or at least after a carefully checked backup of MAINT's CF1 and CF2

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread David Boyes
On 3/5/10 3:33 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: 2. Renames CPLOAD to CPLOLD on the CF2, erasing any previous CPLOLD in the process. I find the concept of IBM automatically deleting ANYTHING on my SYSTEM CONFIG somewhat troubling unless I explicitly ask for it. How about just

Re: Question about machine type and model

2010-03-05 Thread Kris Buelens
Look for the STSI (SAMP)EXEC, on MAINT 193 or MAINT 3B2, and you can get much more than you'd ever want to know. 2010/3/5 zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Daniel Allen dal...@serena.com wrote: In z/OS, the command 'D M=CPU' shows the machine type and model. In

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/05/2010 at 04:32 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: How well does that fit with massive CP updates such as VPARS and VTAPE? All CP mods are supposed to be identified via the LOCALMOD command. If SERVICE finds that there are CP local mods, then SERVICE will rebuild the

Re: Question about machine type and model

2010-03-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/05/2010 at 03:39 EST, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: Sure, Chuckie... go ahead and tease anyone running a z/VM before z/VM 5.3 where the rexx stsi() function came in! Mike, you have apparently forgotten that that I posted a sample STSI ASSEMBLE program in September

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-05 Thread Phil Smith III
Chuckie wrote: All CP mods are supposed to be identified via the LOCALMOD command. If SERVICE finds that there are CP local mods, then SERVICE will rebuild the nuc with those mods. If the modules to which local mods apply are hit by IBM service, then SERVICE will warn you and stop. After you