Re: smcli - z/VM System Management command line utility

2011-02-11 Thread David Boyes
You, sir, are a god. I've been kicking IBM ever since SMAPI came out for something like this. Thanks. Can you port if to CMS as well? Please? -- db On Feb 11, 2011, at 23:15, "Leland Lucius" wrote: > Some of you folks might find this useful. It implements all but 1 of > the SMAPI functi

smcli - z/VM System Management command line utility

2011-02-11 Thread Leland Lucius
Some of you folks might find this useful. It implements all but 1 of the SMAPI functions in a single bash script. In addition, it supports TCP/IP via bash's builtin /dev/tcp support and IUCV via the embedded smiucv program that you can build using "smcli smiucv". Documentation is slim, so yo

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Scott Rohling
I do not think turning the virtualization engine (CP) into a scheduler (I'm talking command/job scheduler here folks) is a good idea. CMS was designed specifically to be able to 'automate' and issue CP commands as well as CMS ones (which includes a filesystem, commands to read/write files, access

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Actually, you are both right. There is a need for both. If I am a large mainframe shop, who cares, of course I'll buy the OM or whatever, get the timer pop and all the other goodies as well, its all chump change anyway. But what if I am a small to medium size shop with a limited budget? Must

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/11/2011 at 04:24 EST, Mike Walter wrote: > See? Alan's reply is precisely why I thought "it seemed prudent to run it > past others for wider consideration." > > I suspect that there will be many new LoZ (a new "Linux on System Z" > acronym seen recently, and MUCH less to type) cu

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Mike Walter
See? Alan's reply is precisely why I thought "it seemed prudent to run it past others for wider consideration." I suspect that there will be many new LoZ (a new "Linux on System Z" acronym seen recently, and MUCH less to type) customers who will not purchase IBM OM, or CA VM:Operator, but whom

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/11/2011 at 03:10 EST, Martin Zimelis wrote: > David's comment is a perfect example of the reason Rich is exactly right: The > requirement should specify the effect you want, not the method of > implementation. > > And don't forget to include the business case for the enhancemen

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2011-02-11 Thread Gavin Appleton
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Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Tom Huegel
Maybe a good idea, but I doubt it will fly.. With the advent of the FOR command it is simple to put "CP FOR abc CMD CLOSE CONS" in a WAKEUP file. But if they did buy it how about an enhancement to XAUTOLOG with AT hh:mm:ss? Come to think of it a full date would be better yet.. AT mm/dd/yy hh:mm:s

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Martin Zimelis
David's comment is a perfect example of the reason Rich is exactly right: The requirement should specify the effect you want, not the method of implementation. And don't forget to include the business case for the enhancement in the requirement. Marty

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
Those of us who already have ways to do it would need to convert :-( Actually, having a built-in way to do it would relieve us of the kludges that we have had to construct and would be one less item that new employees would have to learn or relearn. It is something that has been missing since th

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread David Boyes
#2, but for clarity: A) hh:mm:ss is based on CP time, or the virtual TOD in the virtual machine? B) what happens in a SSI configuration if a virtual machine moves to a new CP with a different clock? If only #2 were implemented, the new SPOOL command could be entered in the directory entry of s

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Rich Smrcina
It's probably best not to dictate how *you* want it implemented. Be very specific in the wording of the requirement and they will figure it out. On 02/11/2011 01:45 PM, Mike Walter wrote: Almost every z/VM customer is forced to devise a method to close service virtual machine consoles at mid

Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Mike Walter
Almost every z/VM customer is forced to devise a method to close service virtual machine consoles at midnight, or at some time of day. z/VM old-timers have done this for ages, but new z/VM customers don't often have the skills necessary to implement automated closures - or even recognize the a