Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-16 Thread Glenn Knickerbocker
Gregg C Levine wrote: They even made time clocks. Even? Time clocks and ticker tape machines were IBM's first products! ¬R

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-16 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Plus scales for measuring weight. Looked like butcher scales. CTR, Computing, Tabulating, Recording, was the original name (I think). Jim Glenn Knickerbocker wrote: Gregg C Levine wrote: They even made time clocks. Even? Time clocks and ticker tape machines were IBM's first

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-16 Thread Stephen . Gentry
cc: Subject:Re: OT: old equipmentRe: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA I remember that when I started school in a one room country school house in 1949 that there was a clock on the wall that said, on the front face, IBM. There's one (a gorgeous wall

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-16 Thread fredb001
What about scales? Fred -- Original message -- From: Glenn Knickerbocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gregg C Levine wrote: They even made time clocks. Even? Time clocks and ticker tape machines were IBM's first products! ¬R

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-15 Thread David Boyes
I remember that when I started school in a one room country school house in 1949 that there was a clock on the wall that said, on the front face, IBM. There's one (a gorgeous wall model with pendulum) in the lobby of the POK briefing center that I'd pay significant money to have. Maybe some

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-15 Thread Julian Wall
I have a 3380K at home I used as a storage cabinet, I gutted it when we discontinued them and sold the aluminum that surrounds the HDA. I took one of them and cut the frame down to about 30 high and rewelded the top to it and makes a great work platform to work on lawn mowers etc.. Julian

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-13 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I don't have anything in the way of old equipment such as that or even pictures, but I have some historical information. I started working for IBM in 1967 in a marketing branch office in Chicago. I would dutifully update my IBM sales manual, replacing pages and pitching the old ones.

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-13 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:17 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA Steve--I thought that your posting about the old equipment would cause the list

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-13 Thread Gregg C Levine
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA I saw a carbine like that in the IBM museum in Endicott. Gotta get back there before I retire back to Texas in a year of so. I'm only about 35 miles up the road, now. I remember

OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-12 Thread Stephen . Gentry
Schmiedge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/11/2007 07:27 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA 5 of them. I

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-12 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Steve--I thought that your posting about the old equipment would cause the list to be swamped with old memories. The picture is kind of misleading. I recognized the tape drives as machines that looked like 3420 drives except at first glance, I thought that the person was standing behind them

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-12 Thread Stephen Frazier
If you look closely you will see he is sitting on top of the tape drives not standing behind them. Therefor, they must be 3420's I cant think of any other tape drives with enough flat room on the top so you can sit on them. It is warm up there. :) That is a 3270 terminal on a 3274 control

3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread Sergio Lima
Hi list, We have a problem here, may be why we don't know very well the 3174 machine. We are running TCP/IP under VM/ESA, but the 3174 machine don't want work. Unfortunatelly We don't have here in our hands, the TCPMAINT Log, but tomorrow, may be. For now, We have our IOCP

RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread Carlos Bodra
nome de Alan Altmark Enviada em: quarta-feira, 11 de julho de 2007 18:26 Para: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Assunto: Re: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA On Wednesday, 07/11/2007 at 04:45 EDT, Sergio Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a problem here, may be why we don't know very well

Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread David Boyes
... -Original Message- From: Carlos Bodra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: 7/11/07 5:37 PM Subject: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA Alan, 3174 can participate in a TCP/IP network if has Ethernet adapter or into a Token Ring if configured

RES: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread Carlos Bodra
: Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA That 3174 IP gateway feature only operates when the 3174 is a) running SNA microcode and is b) attached to VTAM. It is not supported for use with the VM TCP stack.and does not work. It's nie to know that you have the other one of those beasts. I

Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread Ron Schmiedge
... -Original Message- From: Carlos Bodra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: 7/11/07 5:37 PM Subject: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA Alan, 3174 can participate in a TCP/IP network if has Ethernet adapter or into a Token Ring

Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/11/2007 at 05:36 EDT, Carlos Bodra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3174 can participate in a TCP/IP network if has Ethernet adapter or into a Token Ring if configured with TKR adapter. There are some specific configuration questions to make this possible. As an SNA PU, yes. As a

Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread David Boyes
5 of them. I have a 3174 with a T/R adapter. Runs 3 SNA printers. Talks SNA to an OSA-E card (for about a month now). Has been running for a lng time (I have a 6th, a spare sitting in the corner) Lots of people had Ethernet and T/R adapters in 3174s for SNA traffic, but don't confuse