Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Wakser, David
All: I have the need to define a virtual CTC between a first-level zVM machine and a 2nd-level zVM machine. This is in order to activate ISLINK between those two machines. Since the virtual CTCs need to belong to the z/VM system I am at a loss as to how to do this. Can anyone

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
, David Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:34 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Defining virtual CTCAs All: I have the need to define a virtual CTC between a first-level zVM machine and a 2nd-level zVM machine. This is in order to activate ISLINK between those two machines

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Bill Munson
David, Add this statement to your 2nd level system USER DIRECTORY entry. SPECIAL 100 CTCA then you will be able to define the VCTCA and couple to it Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Wakser, David
: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining virtual CTCAs In the directory for your 2nd level guest you would have: SPECIAL 0D90 FCTC 1stlevelSVM For your other 1st level SVM: SPECIAL 0F11 FCTC 2ndlevelguestid The on both issue a COUPLE command

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Rich Smrcina
No, but if the machines are close to each other, an ESCON CTC can be used. Wakser, David wrote: As a further complication, we also need to use a virtual CTC between two VMs running on different processors - is that doable? David Wakser -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone:

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Subject: Re: Defining virtual CTCAs Jim: I think you misunderstood my question: the zVM system must own one side of the CTC - otherwise an ACTIVATE ISLINK cannot succeed. There is no SVM involved. Defining the side belonging to the guest machine is the piece that I know; defining the side

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Wakser, David
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining virtual CTCAs The 1st level system (CP) needs to use a real CTC device, so the 2nd level system will need to have another real CTC device attached to it, capable of connecting (via IOCP defs) to the first. Or wo a third system in your CS collection which itself

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Mark Wheeler
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Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Wakser, David
, and all others who answered. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining virtual CTCAs If you need to talk to the actual 1st

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Defining virtual CTCAs Mark: That is what I was afraid of - that first level needed a REAL CTC. Thanks for the confirmation

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Wakser, David
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining virtual CTCAs Can you use TSAF for what you want to do?I've used that to shared SFS between 1st and 2nd level without a real CTC, only virtual. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread David Boyes
Yes, that was what I thought. But I received an answer from someone at IBM (regarding a DITTO problem between nodes) that indicated that a virtual CTC would work. I believe that person must have been mistaken, because I cannot see how! So, I approached the list for verification! At one point

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
, 2007 8:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Defining virtual CTCAs Marcy: Unless I am mistaken, TSAF requires VTAM - which is not running in the 2nd-level VM. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
Marcy got it right. Use TSAF. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining virtual CTCAs David

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread David Boyes
In theory, I see no reason why TCP couldn't be the medium, but IUCV doesn't support that type of connection. Yeah, then AVS or TSAF are probably your only other options. There's a nice market niche there for someone to create an IP-based 3088-like device. It'd be hard, but very, very

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining virtual CTCAs In theory, I see no reason why TCP couldn't be the medium, but IUCV doesn't support that type of connection. Yeah, then AVS or TSAF are probably your only other options. There's a nice market niche there for someone to create an IP

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Wakser, David
It certainly would have made THIS project simpler! David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining virtual CTCAs Chuckie

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/10/2007 at 09:34 EDT, Wakser, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the need to define a virtual CTC between a first-level zVM machine and a 2nd-level zVM machine. This is in order to activate ISLINK between those two machines. Since the virtual CTCs need to belong to the

Re: Defining virtual CTCAs

2007-10-10 Thread Wakser, David
:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining virtual CTCAs On Wednesday, 10/10/2007 at 10:37 EDT, Wakser, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that was what I thought. But I received an answer from someone at IBM (regarding a DITTO problem between nodes) that indicated that a virtual