Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-25 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:03:59 -0500 (EST), Alan Altmark wrote: > The description of DISCONNECT_TIMEOUT is a little vague in that it talks > about "forced disconnect". That situation occurs when > 1. You get an I/O error on local non-SNA 3270 device (e.g. TEST/NORMAL, > chpid pull); > 2. You sever

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 01/25/2011 at 11:46 EST, "Schuh, Richard" wrote: > Are you sure about that? Any posted read that is not responded to will get a > disconnected machine forced regardless of whether it is VM or CP read. The > forced disconnect is in response to terminal errors during I/O and is r

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-25 Thread Kris Buelens
er systems. > > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > > > > -- > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On > Behalf Of *Kris Buelens > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:34 AM > > *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > *

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
cannot speak to the earlier systems. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:34 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Forced logoff by

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-25 Thread Chuck Brazie
01/24/2011 01:43 PM Subject: Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM? Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System > AND, if you connect to the *VMEVENT system service, you can be notified > any time a guest goes into "disconnect timeout pending" state Quick question: how is the

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-25 Thread Kris Buelens
Logically the Virtual Machine would be in VM READ. But in the VM/XA branch of VM -on which z/VM is based- any VM READ of a disconnected user without secondary user gets translated in a CP READ. I find this a bug, VM/SP and VM/HPO did it right. Without setting a secondary user on it, one cannot ev

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-24 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
The OP (that's me) has mentioned opening a PMR over the fact that PERFSVM did in fact abend. I thought that after creating a VMDUMP, the virtual machine would be in a CP READ, but I guess I misunderstood. Shimon On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > > > What probably happened

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:14:18 -0500 (EST), John Franciscovich wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:38:38 -0500 (EST), Stephen Powell wrote: >> The most common cause for a FORCED LOGOFF BY SYSTEM is that the >> virtual machine went into a VM READ. If a disconnected virtual >> machin

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/24/2011 at 01:43 EST, David Boyes wrote: > > AND, if you connect to the *VMEVENT system service, you can be notified > > any time a guest goes into "disconnect timeout pending" state > > Quick question: how is the data field in the VMEVENT message formatted? There's > a layout f

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-24 Thread David Boyes
> AND, if you connect to the *VMEVENT system service, you can be notified > any time a guest goes into "disconnect timeout pending" state Quick question: how is the data field in the VMEVENT message formatted? There's a layout for parsing the TRGCLS, but not the data. Is it literally userid","co

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/24/2011 at 01:24 EST, John Franciscovich wrote: > > The most common cause for a FORCED LOGOFF BY SYSTEM is that the > > virtual machine went into a VM READ. If a disconnected virtual > > machine goes into a VM READ, CP sets a timer. By default, this > > t

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-24 Thread John Franciscovich
> The most common cause for a FORCED LOGOFF BY SYSTEM is that the > virtual machine went into a VM READ. If a disconnected virtual > machine goes into a VM READ, CP sets a timer. By default, this > timer is 15 minutes. I'm not sure if this is configurable or not, > I haven

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-24 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Thank you! There was a dump, and I did open a call. Shimon On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Kris Buelens wrote: > My guess is that it abended. It doesn't write that event in its log ... > (obviously). > Look in the spool for a dump file from PERFSVM, and you'll have no other > choice then to se

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-23 Thread Stephen Powell
it ABENDed and went into a disabled wait, that should be visible > in its console, I'd think... The most common cause for a FORCED LOGOFF BY SYSTEM is that the virtual machine went into a VM READ. If a disconnected virtual machine goes into a VM READ, CP sets a timer. By default, this ti

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-23 Thread Phil Smith
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Doug wrote: > Possibly one of your trends or history disks became full .. Why would that cause LOGOFF BY SYSTEM? Userid might log itself off, but not BY SYSTEM. If it ABENDed and went into a disabled wait, that should be visible in its console, I'd think... --

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-23 Thread Doug
On 1/23/2011 11:39, Shimon Lebowitz wrote: Hi, On Thursday (actually, it was just past midnight, Wednesday night), PERFSVM was forced off by SYSTEM, while running DSC as usual: The operator log showed these lines: 00:51:51 USER DSC LOGOFF AS PERFSVM USERS = 66FORCED BY SYSTEM 00:51:51

Re: Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-23 Thread Kris Buelens
My guess is that it abended. It doesn't write that event in its log ... (obviously). Look in the spool for a dump file from PERFSVM, and you'll have no other choice then to send that to the support center. 2011/1/23 Shimon Lebowitz > Hi, > On Thursday (actually, it was just past midnight, Wednes

Forced logoff by SYSTEM?

2011-01-23 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Hi, On Thursday (actually, it was just past midnight, Wednesday night), PERFSVM was forced off by SYSTEM, while running DSC as usual: The operator log showed these lines: 00:51:51 USER DSC LOGOFF AS PERFSVM USERS = 66FORCED BY SYSTEM 00:51:51 HCPMNI6245I The monitor IUCV path was abnormall