Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:55:23 -0400, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, 07/10/2007 at 09:06 EST, Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, 07/09/2007 at 10:30 AST, Rick Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : ... Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott 10:30 AST? Alaska

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/09/2007 at 10:30 AST, Rick Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Alan Altmark wrote: I have some assembler code that can run with C or Pascal (called prior to entering the real module). I put in a WXTRN for CEESTART and VSPASCAL in order to figure out whether

[OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Monday, 07/09/2007 at 10:30 AST, Rick Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott 10:30 AST? Alaska Standard Time? You're in Alaska, Alan? If so, why bothe r to log in?

Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread Miguel Delapaz
I think Atlantic Standard Time would make more sense...but still...why bother to log in? :-) Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 07/10/2007 07:06:19 AM: On Monday, 07/09/2007 at 10:30 AST, Rick Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread David Boyes
10:30 AST? Alaska Standard Time? You're in Alaska, Alan? If so, why bothe r to log in? No, that'd be Alan Standard Time. You know, the time scale when you're in that meeting with random vendor weenies that never seems to end? It's the time to argue about architectural details, and plan

Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/10/2007 at 09:06 EST, Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, 07/09/2007 at 10:30 AST, Rick Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott 10:30 AST? Alaska Standard Time? You're in Alaska, Alan? If so, why bother to log in? No,

Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread pfa
AST is actually Altmark Standard Time. Not to be confused with CST, which of course is Chuckie Standard Time. Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/10/2007 10:06 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread Mike Walter
Hmmm. Then it's Domino's Almost or About Standard Time? Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
Maybe Arbitrary Standard Time Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if running as

Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread Don Russell
Schuh, Richard wrote: Maybe Arbitrary Standard Time Making PST = Proprietary Standard Time :-) Sorry... but I like oxymorons, and this fit sooo well. :-)

Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
To paraphrase Will Rogers, I never met an oxymoron that I didn't like. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Russell Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [OT]

Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello! I see no one, outside of myself has thought it should also be Anarchist Standard Time. You’d be surprised how many people complain to my ISP's support locations regarding the time shown on the web mail screens not looking like something all of us understand. It took me a long while to

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-10 Thread Gillis, Mark
The problem is that I may eventually need to do a ThreadCreate (note Multitasking CMS call, not POSIX pthread_create) or EventTrap call, but not initially. It seemed pretty ugly to me to have to create a thread just to decide if I was running as a true MT CMS app or not. Not providing a call to

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-09 Thread Gillis, Mark
In case anyone's interested, I raised this with IBM. Their response was that testing NUCMTDSP wouldn't work, the only way possible being to run the CMS control blocks. Unfortunately, these control blocks have the note This information is NOT intended to be used as Programming Interfaces of z/VM

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/10/2007 at 10:16ZE10, Gillis, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case anyone?s interested, I raised this with IBM. Their response was that testing NUCMTDSP wouldn?t work, the only way possible being to run the CMS control blocks. Unfortunately, these control blocks have the

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-09 Thread Gillis, Mark
Unfortunately, not applicable to what I'm doing - the module where I'm doing this is CMSCALL'd by a client application, so it's not linked in, and I need to maintain backward compatibility, so it needs to stay that way. Good idea, though. Mark Gillis Senior Software Engineer Tel: +61 2 9429

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-09 Thread Don Russell
Not sure if this will work but... Can you use DMSCALLER to look back to see who called you... do that repeatedly (looking further and further back) until you: A - find the origin of the universe you currently know or B - find VMSTART You would only need to do this one time when your

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-09 Thread Gillis, Mark
DMSCALLER returned the name of the calling load module - not VMSTART. Not to worry - running the chain of PSD's seems to work, I'll just keep my fingers crossed that it stays that way. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Russell

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-09 Thread Rick Troth
I'm not convinced that running the chain is the right solution. Sure, it names the caller(s), but that's hardly a programatic way to determine if you're in an MT environment. -- R; On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Gillis, Mark wrote: DMSCALLER returned the name of the calling load module - not VMSTART.

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-09 Thread Rick Troth
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Alan Altmark wrote: I have some assembler code that can run with C or Pascal (called prior to entering the real module). I put in a WXTRN for CEESTART and VSPASCAL in order to figure out whether it is running in an LE environment or not. Could you put in a WXTRN for

How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-06-29 Thread Gillis, Mark
I need to determine if my code is being called by a multitasking CMS program (i.e., with entrypoint VMSTART) or not. It seems that it is valid to issue almost any multitasking CMS call from a program that hasn't been linked as a multitasking CMS application, except for ThreadCreate and EventTrap,