Re: Simple RACF Question - Can the RACF database be shared with z/OS?

2011-01-05 Thread Colin Allinson
Jeff, We used to do this until recently, it worked well and we would be still if someone had not done a silly that would have caused too much effort to resolve. When you are running stable versions of RACF on both Z/OS and Z/VM then there is no issue. The thing that you have to be aware of is

Re: Simple RACF Question - Can the RACF database be shared with z/OS?

2011-01-05 Thread gclovis
Jeff, The last time I read about, all RACF documents says that it is possible. But, only when the zOS doesn't work in Sysplex. This restriction killed my chances to do tests... __ Clovis From: Jeff Gribbin jeff.grib...@gmail.com To:

Re: Simple RACF Question - Can the RACF database be shared with z/OS?

2011-01-05 Thread Colin Allinson
gclo...@br.ibm.com wrote :- Jeff, The last time I read about, all RACF documents says that it is possible. But, only when the zOS doesn't work in Sysplex. This restriction killed my chances to do tests... Clovis We were successfully sharing with a Z/OS sysplex so this is not an

Re: Simple RACF Question - Can the RACF database be shared with z/OS?

2011-01-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 01/05/2011 at 07:12 EST, Jeff Gribbin jeff.grib...@gmail.com wrote: I've not used RACF on VM for a few decades and I believed that, as z/OS advanced, there came a time when it was no longer possible to share a RACF database between a z/VM system and a z/OS system. I'm sure that

Re: Simple RACF Question - Can the RACF database be shared with z/OS?

2011-01-05 Thread James Olson
We do not share a RACF database, but use a copy of the zOS RACF database for our z/VM system. We make all changes thru the zOS system, and copy/replace the z/VM RACF database quarterly or as needed. VM security does not change significantly and the Auditors are happy with this.

Re: Simple RACF Question - Can the RACF database be shared with z/OS?

2011-01-05 Thread Colin Allinson
Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:- I am the one who has suggested publicly that just because you *can* share, it does not follow that you *should* share. I fully understand and respect Alan's views on the Con's of sharing RACF databases - but there are some Pro's as well. One of

Re: Simple RACF Question - Can the RACF database be shared with z/OS?

2011-01-05 Thread Jeff Gribbin
Thankyou Alan - that succinctly lifts my understanding to the level of, It's physically possible but really, really inadvisable because ... followed by exactly the concerns that I would have felt compelled to raise here had the consensus been that it really was as easy as the manual appears to