Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-03 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:54 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: How come Z hardware doesn't come with one of these? 8-) Because the machines are mostly installed in places where you don't have sufficiently open sky to receive GPS... Similar concerns prevented usage of the radio beacons

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-03 Thread Les Koehler
(or an oscilliscope)? ;-)~ Mike Walter Sent from the wee keyboard of a Blackberry. From: Scott Rohling [mailto:scott.rohl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 04:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time I tried

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-03 Thread Gary Eheman
On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 08:36:21 +0200, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com w rote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:54 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrot e: How come Z hardware doesn't come with one of these? 8-) Because the machines are mostly installed in places where you don't have sufficiently

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-02 Thread Gary Eheman
(geek mode on) Because I wanted the most accurate clock yet least expensive clock I coul d get, I built my own GPS clock and use the pulse-per-second (PPS) signal w ith GPSD to build my own NPTD stratum zero time source that gives my system super accurate time. The basic plan came from this

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-02 Thread Brian Nielsen
Is the SE clock update you describe performed on z9's? We did a POR a couple weeks ago and the clock was off by about 27 minutes afterwards. I t didn't get caught for a while. The z/OS images now have their TOD prompt re-enabled and the POR instructions now include a step to check the SE

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 08/02/2011 at 01:32 EDT, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.gov wrote: Is the SE clock update you describe performed on z9's? We did a POR a couple weeks ago and the clock was off by about 27 minutes afterwards. It didn't get caught for a while. The z/OS images now have their TOD

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-02 Thread David Boyes
Now *that* is cool. Because I wanted the most accurate clock yet least expensive clock I coul d get, I built my own GPS clock and use the pulse-per-second (PPS) signal w ith GPSD to build my own NPTD stratum zero time source that gives my system super accurate time. How come Z hardware

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-02 Thread Mark Post
On 8/2/2011 at 02:54 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: How come Z hardware doesn't come with one of these? 8-) Because it costs less than $100? Mark Post

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-02 Thread Scott Rohling
I tried not to - but this made me laugh very loud... Scott Rohling On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: On 8/2/2011 at 02:54 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: How come Z hardware doesn't come with one of these? 8-) Because it costs less than $100?

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-02 Thread Mike Walter
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time I tried not to - but this made me laugh very loud... Scott Rohling On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Mark Post mp...@novell.commailto:mp...@novell.com wrote: On 8/2/2011 at 02:54 PM, David Boyes dbo

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 07/29/2011 at 08:36 EDT, Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com wrote: On: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 08:00:12PM -0400,Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Wrote: } Do You mean at the IPL prompt? If so no I don't think we did. Well, thats why they are off. The 2 CPUs clocks are independant

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-01 Thread David Boyes
Starting the z196 GA2 upgrade and the z114: o The SE BOC will sync to the CEC TOD once an hour instead of once a day, improving CEC TOD accuracy after POR. o The SE BOC will be steered the match the CEC TOD instead of making large jumps, avoiding a Paradox that could destroy the universe. o

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 08/01/2011 at 02:30 EDT, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: Sounds like it would be worth teaching NTP to treat the CEC TOD clock as a stratum 2 time source. For zBX purposes, the need for common time is to get logs properly sequenced. It doesn't have to be ultra-accurate,

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-01 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: o The SE BOC will be steered the match the CEC TOD instead of making large jumps, avoiding a Paradox that could destroy the universe. I would not be suprised to find the steering to be more conceptually speaking. The

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-01 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 2:26 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time On Friday, 07/29/2011 at 08:36 EDT, Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com wrote: On: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 08:00:12PM -0400

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 08/01/2011 at 05:06 EDT, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: o The SE BOC will be steered the match the CEC TOD instead of making large jumps, avoiding a Paradox that could destroy the universe.

Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-07-29 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi We are getting ready to migrate to a z196 from our z10. We brought a z/VM 5.4 system up on the z196 for the first time today. We noticed that the clock on the VM system was off by 4 hours and 4 minutes (showed as 7AM when it was 11:04). We did not make any changes to the TIMEZONE settings.

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-07-29 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 7:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time Did you set the clock when you IPL'd z/VM? Scott Rohling On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-07-29 Thread Feller, Paul
can't remember what I had done wrong. Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 6:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Time off running z/VM 5.4

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-07-29 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 08:00:12PM -0400,Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Wrote: } Do You mean at the IPL prompt? If so no I don't think we did. Well, thats why they are off. The 2 CPUs clocks are independant of each other. Re-IPL set the clock when prompted. -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota,

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-07-29 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Mainframe Support Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Greenberg Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 8:35 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time On: Fri

Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time

2011-07-29 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time Terry, Have a simple rexx we run at startup/ipl to fix up the vm clock. Also, a program we used for Y2K testing to set the clock to whatever you want then ipl the guest. Contact me off list if you would