RE: [IceHorses] Look at photos

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
I finally posted photos of my horses, although they are from last winter Nice horses! Obviously Stjarna and Teton are Icelandics, but what is Moon? If I did, I would want to show off in the fur get-up like Janice did on her parade ride. What would we do without Janice and Wanda for fashion

RE: [IceHorses] Head and Mouth in Gaits

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
I am not an expert on the race pace. but Twist's is a true two-feet-landing on the same side at the same time. It's is not a good gait for riding. In fact, when we first knew him, I kept thinking his name was Lurch. As a breeder, I'm MUCH more worried that any foals born here might be very

[IceHorses] Flying Pace CLOCKED!!!

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
here ya go. The flying pace was finally officially timed! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo attachment: traf.jpg

[IceHorses] Kathy's Horses

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
These horses must be related to Nasi. http://iceryder.net/kathyhorses.html Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

[IceHorses] My Training Goals

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
here are my summer training plans. 1. Clicker train Stonewall and Nasi to lie down 2. Pony Nasi on a trail ride (or several) 3. SOMEHOW DEAR LORD IN HEAVEN find a way to get Stonewall to calm down when excited. 4. Get Teev and Jaspar placed in the top five on an NATRC competitive trail ride

[IceHorses] Ground Driving

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
Here's Robyn's article about ground driving: http://iceryder.net/grounddriving.html Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Axis of Evil

2007-03-07 Thread PeicasaArt ~ Denise Every
Isn't that more like the Asses of Evil? :) Denise Peicasa Art: http://stores.ebay.com/Peicasa-Fine-Animal-and-Nature-Art We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give. Sir Winston Churchill

Re: [IceHorses] Axis of Evil

2007-03-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 07/03/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is Curls mad at the world! Janice He's saying I'm just a tiny little donkey. I woudn't hurt a flee. Peppy gets that way when trying to coax dogs closer. He tries to make himself look smaller. Those eyes of Curl's are almost human.

Re: [IceHorses] Kathy's Horses

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/6/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These horses must be related to Nasi. http://iceryder.net/kathyhorses.html hahha, adorable! You know just this weekend I realized he has not tried to bite me in a long time!! I think his being gelded stopped the biting! Janice -- yipie tie

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stella

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/6/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What gait for Stella in this picture? Running Walk! and the crowd goes wildd whaa janice -- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] Axis of Evil

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/7/07, PeicasaArt ~ Denise Every [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that more like the Asses of Evil? :) HAHA a good one. Sometimes for fun when people ask his name I say Don Key and watch their face. Then a man at work said you could name him Jacque Asse haha he pronounced it ZShock

Re: [IceHorses] Axis of Evil

2007-03-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
He's saying I'm just a tiny little donkey. I woudn't hurt a flee. That's FLEA Wanda

[IceHorses] Leslie Desmond Video

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
Here's an excerpt from one of Leslie Desmond's videos: http://iceryder.net/leslievideo1.html Please feel free to forward. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Axis of Evil

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
Those eyes of Curl's are almost human. he was wanting OUT for turnout and when Traveller followed me to the gate he started braying and glaring at him thru the fence so I took the pic:) He is so mean, but surprisingly has never once acted mean to a human, not even flattening his ears. Altho

Re: [IceHorses] Axis of Evil

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/7/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's saying I'm just a tiny little donkey. I woudn't hurt a flee. That's FLEA Wanda i thought you deliberately misspelled to be funnee :) Janice-- yipie tie yie yo

[IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
How can we promote the breed as a usable horse for riders in North America? What would be ways to make the breed seem more familiar, user-friendly, and functional? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

[IceHorses] Video

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
In this video, the horse shows a nice gait; how does the noseband look? http://www.tolthorse.com/video.cfm?SHID=65 Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 09:15:40AM -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: How can we promote the breed as a usable horse for riders in North America? What would be ways to make the breed seem more familiar, user-friendly, and functional? why, aside from the profits of breeders, do we need to do that?

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
why, aside from the profits of breeders, do we need to do that? they're hardly obscure as it is; they appear even in most kids' books of breeds. --vicka As an owner of Icelandic Horses I want them perceived well by people that aren't familiar with them. It's important to me that with any

RE: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
why, aside from the profits of breeders, do we need to do that? If you really think that breeders make a profit, you need to think again. There's an old joke in the horse world. How do you make a small fortune with horses? Start with a large one. And actually, it's hardly a joke. In the USA,

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:06:02PM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote: It's important to me that with any 'outside' contact my herd has, they are considered well trained and well behaved. At the despooking clinic we took Gusti to we were told he was the best behaved horse there. People pay

Re: [IceHorses] Bridleless and bareback?

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
Has anyone here mastered riding bridleless and bareback at all gaits with their icelandic? Inside and outside of the arena? Just wondering! :) I haven't seen anyone do all gaits, inside and / or outside of the arena. Here's a few pictures practicing PNH tasks in the arena:

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
How can we promote the breed as a usable horse for riders in North America? What would be ways to make the breed seem more familiar, user-friendly, and functional? why, aside from the profits of breeders, do we need to do that? they're hardly obscure as it is; they appear even in most

RE: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
How can we promote the breed as a usable horse for riders in North America? What would be ways to make the breed seem more familiar, user-friendly, and functional? I think it would help to show them doing things that American riders like to do, in ways that American riders like to do them.

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Feeding herring?

2007-03-07 Thread Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms
--- kim morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sumatra comes from (I believe) Africa, and what I drink is imported green, locally roasted, and I only drink pressed coffee. I'm a huge coffee snob, but my one of

RE: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stella

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
What gait for Stella in this picture? Flat walk or running walk? I'm not so great at judging speed from a still picture. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/7/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, giraffes and tigers are in many children's books, and dinosaurs too - but that doesn't exactly make them common in my neck of the woods. :) In a country that has 10,000,000 horses, I'd consider the 2500-3000 Icelandic's fairly obscure.

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stella

2007-03-07 Thread ToltallyICE
What gait for Stella in this picture? Flat walk or running walk? I'm not so great at judging speed from a still picture. Looks close to a trot to me, so I'd guess Fox Trot. I still haven't gotten Liz's book yet, but I do intend to get it eventually. The list is just so long, and the

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
As for the spaklers... the Friesian people always show with twinkle lights, in elizabethan attire. maybe the icelandics could be demo'd in twinkle lights in viking attire. Oh, yeah, the Viking attire would make more people want to run out and buy one - not! What is the image of Vikings

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
How can we promote the breed as a usable horse for riders in North America? What would be ways to make the breed seem more familiar, user-friendly, and functional? why, aside from the profits of breeders, do we need to do that? they're hardly obscure as it is; they appear even in most

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stella

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
Flat walk or running walk? I'm not so great at judging speed from a still picture. Looks close to a trot to me, so I'd guess Fox Trot. I still haven't gotten Liz's book yet, but I do intend to get it eventually. the tip off for me on a fox trot is the back feet look like they are

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 09:15:40AM -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: How can we promote the breed as a usable horse for riders in North America? What would be ways to make the breed seem more familiar, user-friendly, and functional? why, aside from the profits

RE: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
I live in a rural sparsely populated county and there are approximately 3000 horses in the county. So 3000 icelandics in the US compared to 3000 horses of all breeds in my one county is pretty small population! I am surprised. I think I read a while back that there are something like

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
As for the spaklers... the Friesian people always show with twinkle lights, in elizabethan attire. maybe the icelandics could be demo'd in twinkle lights in viking attire. Oh, yeah, the Viking attire would make more people want to run out and buy one - not! What is the image of Vikings

RE: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Are Arabian horses always shown with riders from that country? Not that I've ever seen. (I guess that would be countries, instead of country...?) dressed in their traditional attire? I think they do have some costume classes at breed shows, don't they? But, no, I don't see that very often.

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish the Icelandic congress would make a video, we just watched the Paso Fino video from their breed association and it was alright, right now for prospective owners and people interested we have them watch the Dan Slott video before we go

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
I just want to add, the promotions of this being a family horse are excellent as we have taken ours to a western showing program for the last 2-3 yrs and have had the boys have great success in speed events with many people asking to buy these guys from us. I don't intend on ever selling them

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On 3/7/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think they do have some costume classes at breed shows, don't they? But, no, I don't see that very often. http://gastongazette.mycapture.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?userphoto=0theway=nextpicnum=7image=13250227thispage2=return=#show The

RE: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed / Registry

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
There are somewhere around 3,000 registered horses, but how many of those numbers are horses that are no longer alive? Yes, it's an approximate number. You also have to count a few horses that are still registered in Iceland or Canada, but not in the USA. And there are some whose papers got

[IceHorses] Happy Birthday, Remington!

2007-03-07 Thread mdpsy
Remington turned nineteen years old today. How many nineteen year olds have been to all the places he has been to and seen all the things he has seen? And what a very fresh nineteen he is. I was joking with Marilyn a few weeks ago that now that Remington has turned snow white and has

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stella

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
Judy... is she trained to ride yet? Yes, I believe she is. Here's some information and a couple of short videos from the owner: http://iceryder.net/kathystella.html Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Happy Birthday, Remington!

2007-03-07 Thread SturmRanch
Happy Birthday to Remington - our hero! Nancy Sturm

[IceHorses] Adult rider/horse size requirements

2007-03-07 Thread SturmRanch
When we owned the Welsh pony, she was shown very successfully in local hunter/jumper shows by out grandson's young wife, who is about 5'5 tall, 110 lbs and legally an adult. In those classes, this was permissible, and the pony placed well against 16+ hand horses. The only thing that

Re: [IceHorses] Ground Driving

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
http://iceryder.net/grounddriving.html These are good pages to bookmark (add them to your Google Bookmarks http://www.google.com/bookmarks/ ) and to print out and read in downtime, and also to take to the arena when practicing. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On 3/7/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get me the info. We should make it a group effort. Gastonia isn't that far for Trish, Laree, Cherie and Sue to come down for too. When is it - May? September or October, and it's at Biggerstaff Arena in Dallas. The breed expo was fun, I

RE: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
September or October, and it's at Biggerstaff Arena in Dallas. I know the place - not far off of US 321, just north of Gastonia, right? Emily showed there a few times many years ago. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [IceHorses] Adult rider/horse size requirements

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
When we owned the Welsh pony, she was shown very successfully in local hunter/jumper shows by out grandson's young wife, who is about 5'5 tall, 110 lbs and legally an adult. In those classes, this was permissible, and the pony placed well against 16+ hand horses. I can't remember all the show

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On 3/7/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the place - not far off of US 321, just north of Gastonia, right? Emily showed there a few times many years ago. Yep! That's it. They do the individual call the breed into the arena demo thing, you can have a booth back at your stalls,

RE: [IceHorses] in fairness to Curls

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Just to be fair i thought I would post a pic of curly ray being sweet. What a CUTE picture! This is my little great niece. her mom was standingf beside her while i took the pic and to my horror she walked away! just leaving the 3 year old on curly, a known heathen. Ok, I'll spare you the

RE: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
I just want to add, the promotions of this being a family horse are excellent as we have taken ours to a western showing program for the last 2-3 yrs and have had the boys have great success in speed events with many people asking to buy these guys from us. That's interesting. How old are the

RE: [IceHorses] Video

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
In this video, the horse shows a nice gait; how does the noseband look? http://www.tolthorse.com/video.cfm?SHID=65 Tight, but it looks like a nice mare, and it doesn't look like the girl is hauling on her mouth so much. It was nice to see the mare keep going when she let the reins go slack. I

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 11:24:47AM -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: If you think about it, there may be one or two people who will be dazzled by the sparklers and take a step further towards the breed, but what about the other thousand (or two or three thousand) people who walk away from it because

Re: [IceHorses] Re: anthropomorphism - circus ponies

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: uh huh. whereas all the pictures i've seen here of riders in their mink jackets and horses in silly hats, those just don't count somehow. ' real dignified, that's this list. oohh yeah. and you're so clearly in tune with the old

Re: [IceHorses] Video

2007-03-07 Thread Raven
http://www.tolthorse.com/video.cfm?SHID=65 Hi, No comment on that video. ButI want to comment on the video that the have on their home page. I really like the video! It shows Icelandic Horses doing what they do best...trail riding! It shows then walking, tolting and being exposed to many

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 11:22:18AM -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: I think we should promote the breed in a way that is more familiar, user-friendly, and functional for the American market. again, i have to ask, why? it's not like the information isn't there, and i don't see a whole lot of use in

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 11:28:05AM -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: Are Arabian horses always shown with riders from that country? dressed in their traditional attire? do they ride the horses the way they are ridden there? or here? i wouldn't say always (either for arabs or iceys) but native

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 11:46:49AM -0800, Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms wrote: I found the breed by writing down the Attributes of what I wanted in a horse Short Smooth calm easy keeper not prone to shy friendly can carry a heavy rider and then did internet researchand Robyns

[IceHorses] Re: Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few natural articles were in their newsletter several years ago (one on barefoot), and it supposedly was ordered that no more should be printed; that the information should be traditional stuff. I can believe that.

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stella

2007-03-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 06/03/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What gait for Stella in this picture? Judy Looks fairly 'trotty' but not clean...so I'd say fox trot. Wanda

RE: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stella

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Looks fairly 'trotty' but not clean...so I'd say fox trot. Since several of you have said that looks trotty, I have to tell you - you need to get away from gaited horses a while and get out and look at some three-gaited horses more often! :) That is NOT trotty, not by Thunder or Joe

[IceHorses] Spring grass

2007-03-07 Thread pippa258
Do those who have large grass pastures available feed their horses solely on pasture from the time the grass comes in till it dies in the winter? Or do many still hay their horses in addition to pasture? How many hours/day are they on pasture? Trish

RE: [IceHorses] Spring grass

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Do those who have large grass pastures available feed their horses solely on pasture from the time the grass comes in till it dies in the winter? Or do many still hay their horses in addition to pasture? How many hours/day are they on pasture? Nutritionally, once they are getting access to

Re: [IceHorses] in fairness to Curls

2007-03-07 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 3/7/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to be fair i thought I would post a pic of curly ray being sweet. notice he is free. They look so sweet together! V

Re: [IceHorses] Spring grass

2007-03-07 Thread Cherie Mascis
My horses are out 24/7. I have three large pastures to rotate them through. Once the grass comes up they usually stop coming in for hay. The Paso will be wearing a grazing muzzle this year so I'll have to feed her some hay. Cherie

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 3/7/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could ride Tivar around the arena with a hula hoop instead of reins. janice-- yipie tie yie yo Have you been doing that? V

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Janice McDonald
On 3/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As it is now, what people see is a horse that is tied up tight, held onto tight, runs like crazy, and has to wear *protection* or it'll cut it's leg off when it does a supposedly natural gait... *shrug* i have the only icey within

Re: [IceHorses] in fairness to Curls

2007-03-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 07/03/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to be fair i thought I would post a pic of curly ray being sweet. notice he is free. This is my little great niece. her mom was standingf beside her while i took the pic and to my horror she walked away! just leaving the 3 year old

RE: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
it's not like the information isn't there, and i don't see a whole lot of use in replacing those who'd rather have say an arab or an appy with an icelandic. That doesn't really make sense. How would someone KNOW they'd rather have an arab or an appy if they haven't seen what Icelandic's really

RE: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
*shrug* i have the only icey within spitting distance, Vicka, I have to ask in all seriousness, why do you keep posting on this particular subject, especially when you keep shrugging? If it doesn't matter to you, why do you comment? Why not just listen on this topic, this time around, since

RE: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Karen Thomas
But gosh Vicka, as caring horse people shouldn't we strive to make a positive change for all icelandic horses? i say this only because we are on an icelandic list. personally I am trying to do what I can to make the world a better place for all horses, in my small way, working around my belief

[IceHorses] FOR SALE- NEW Bares Size 0

2007-03-07 Thread Raven
Hi, I have a brand new pair of Easy Care Bare boots size 0 for sale http://tinyurl.com/yvnyq6 This are NEW boots. I just got them a few days ago. Nothing wrong with them, they just will not work for me, due to my right hand disability. Two (2) boots for $86.00 + $9.00 shipping. Thanks!

[IceHorses] Spring Grass

2007-03-07 Thread SturmRanch
We feed hay 12 months of the year at home because our iirrigated farm land is cut for hay and the horses are on what turns into a dry lot in summer. However, Hunter (TWH) lives at a nearby boarding facility where most of the horses are out on grass 24/7. The very experienced owners visually

[IceHorses] Today's Walk

2007-03-07 Thread Raven
This afternoon, I took my ponies for a walk. First Dixie and then Huginn. We walked about 2 miles from the barn, turn around and go back home. My dog Lucy always goes with me. So...here we are walking down the road. Lucy in front, Huginn and me following Lucy. We're about 2 miles from the

[IceHorses] promoting the breed

2007-03-07 Thread jeannette
I just had to add, the adult being too tall to ride is the reason for the rule in my Western Horses Association, not the pony being outdone in the competition. And my association is fine with the little guys competing as long as they aren't winning, they tried to disqualify my son one year

[IceHorses] Re: FOR SALE- NEW Bares Size 0

2007-03-07 Thread Raven
hi...i'm asking for your patience. i just found out that the boots might work from me if i replace the current buckles with the new easy up buckles. i am going to order a set of new buckles. if the new buckles do not help me...i will contact the folks who replied to my email. sorry...i didn't

Re: [IceHorses] Promotion of the Breed

2007-03-07 Thread Judy Ryder
if we want to support the breed, i think we should focus on education and supporting methods of training That's exactly what we're doing! :-) Yeay! This list has made a very positive impact within the breed, and has been very helpful to many people. Thanks to everyone on the list! We may