Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-19 Thread Judy Ryder
> Thanks Judy. I'm putting something together, still in progress. Will you share the article / report with us when it's ready? Thanks! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-18 Thread Janice McDonald
On 9/17/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's see and what would that sport be? what would it be called? > Shall I defer to Janice to come up with a name? > > > Janice needs to help us out here. Well, with a breed with such small > numbers, doing nothing that requires skill

RE: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-18 Thread Karen Thomas
I must add, in my personal opinion, equestrian sport has no place at the Olympics at all, as the riders are relying on another being for their sport, rather than their own athletic prowess. I've thought about that too. I think I disagree (surprised?) a little bit about the riders depending o

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-18 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:46:41 -0700, you wrote: >Let's see and what would that sport be? what would it be called? I hate to think. I must add, in my personal opinion, equestrian sport has no place at the Olympics at all, as the riders are relying on another being for their sport, rather than

RE: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Karen Thomas
Let's see and what would that sport be? what would it be called? Shall I defer to Janice to come up with a name? Janice needs to help us out here. Well, with a breed with such small numbers, doing nothing that requires skill or finesse - just a lot of speed and lot of tack? Karen Kar

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Judy Ryder
> I rather think so too, particularly as FEIF wishes to be a member of > FEI, with Icelandic horse sport eventually being an Olympic > discipline. Let's see and what would that sport be? what would it be called? Shall I defer to Janice to come up with a name? "The only thing necessary for

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Janice McDonald
On 9/17/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Some of them seemed to have leather thongs for a bit. > > > I read as far as "leather thongs" and thought this was going to still be > about Nancy's farrier... if my farrier ever showed up in a leather thong my horses would stampede. fo

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Nancy Sturm
Don't give him any ideas. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Janice McDonald
did you see on discovery channel that special on the terra cotta chinese soldiers they found in a crypt? hundreds of them, many of them mounted on horses. the horses had on different sorts of tack. Some of them seemed to have leather thongs for a bit. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo

RE: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Some of them seemed to have leather thongs for a bit. I read as far as "leather thongs" and thought this was going to still be about Nancy's farrier... Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Judy Ryder
> Interesting that it's just about impossible to find any articles on > the use of a shanked, broken, Tom Thumb type bit (like the Icelandic > bit) in combination with a flash noseband. Probably because no authors > can imagine anyone stupid enough to do it! Here's some interesting information fr

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:25:31 -0400, you wrote: >Mic, I think that's your approach...you'll have to look for places that the >Icelandic-approved-"sins" are prohibited in other disciplines. I rather think so too, particularly as FEIF wishes to be a member of FEI, with Icelandic horse sport eventual

RE: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Yes, as far as I can remember broken mouth bits with shanks with ot without a curb are not allowed in any traditional competitive situation. Mic, I think that's your approach...you'll have to look for places that the Icelandic-approved-"sins" are prohibited in other disciplines. Karen Thoma

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Nancy Sturm
Yes, as far as I can remember broken mouth bits with shanks with ot without a curb are not allowed in any traditional competitive situation. We always made harsh mental judgements on the rare occassion we actually saw soemone using one. Nancy

RE: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Karen Thomas
The jawbands of the English and flash nosebands should rest high up on the solid nasal bone where the horse is less sensitive to pressure. A wide jawband can exert little pain on this hard inflexible skull bone and does not impede breathing, since it runs above the nostril area. That brings

RE: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Interesting that it's just about impossible to find any articles on the use of a shanked, broken, Tom Thumb type bit (like the Icelandic bit) in combination with a flash noseband. Probably because no authors can imagine anyone stupid enough to do it! I really think that's it, Mic. I've never

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-17 Thread Mic Rushen
Thanks for the articles, Judy. Interesting that it's just about impossible to find any articles on the use of a shanked, broken, Tom Thumb type bit (like the Icelandic bit) in combination with a flash noseband. Probably because no authors can imagine anyone stupid enough to do it! Mic Mic (Mich

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-16 Thread Judy Ryder
Info on the Tom Thumb: The Trouble with Tom Thumb by Mark Rashid As a trainer and clinician I am always being asked a variety of horse-related questions. I think the single most common one asked, however, is "what kind of bit should I use on my horse?" In my situation, if I need to do any t

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-16 Thread Judy Ryder
>From Kapitzke: The "Blow Area" of the Nostrils: When a horse is breathing heavily, the "blow area" of the nostrils is easily observed. When a horse is breathing quietly, you can feel it with your fingers. Dropped nosebands are usually not suitable for ponies and horses with small mouths (Ar

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-16 Thread Judy Ryder
> Thanks Judy. I'm putting something together, still in progress. OK, here's a little more from Kapitzke: Questionable Bits and Bridles: The snaffle bit is fundamentally intended for two-handed use. Its variable effectiveness makes it suitable for nearly all styles of riding and every tra

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-16 Thread Mic Rushen
Thanks Judy. I'm putting something together, still in progress. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk

Re: [IceHorses] Drop Nosebands / Curbs / Mic

2007-09-16 Thread Judy Ryder
>>What can we do to help? >> >>Do you need more information about the mechanics? > > Have you got a concise article on the mechanics of the curb bit when > used in conjunction with a drop or flash noseband? That would be > really handy. Mic, What do you have so far? Were you able to get anyt