RE: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies/karen

2007-11-29 Thread Ingvar Ragnarsson
What I see as the main issues are: 1) how the mares are kept during the collection process the mare´s are roaming free in pasture/field with salt buckets and lot´s of water during the time they are taken blood from them. And then the veterinary come´s one´s a week and all the mare´s are put

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies/karen

2007-11-29 Thread Karen Thomas
the mare´s are roaming free in pasture/field with salt buckets and lot´s of water during the time they are taken blood from them. And then the veterinary come´s one´s a week and all the mare´s are put in a pen and thoose that are healthy and pregnant with the right amount of hormon will go on

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-26 Thread Janice McDonald
not what the foals are used for but the BLOOD, what is it used for, thats what I am wondering, since hormones for women come from urine, what hormones are extracted from blood and what is it used for. Janice yipie tie yie yo

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-25 Thread kolugil
As for blood, I think someone told me they use horse blood to make certain anti venoms or something?? Janice-- yipie tie yie yo Horse and sheep blood is used to make rattlesnake antivenin. Not in Iceland as we don´t have any snake´s or scorpions either the Blood mare´s has to be pregnant

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-25 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 09:14:18AM -0600, Raven wrote: 3-5 liters at a time? 3 liters is 100.5 ounces. there are 128 ounces in a gallon. if 5 liters are taken from the mare...that is alot of blood. humans donate by the pint (16 oz) and need to be at least 110# to do so. (i hover around

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-25 Thread Karen Thomas
humans donate by the pint (16 oz) and need to be at least 110# to do so. (i hover around there, so the figure is important to me.) an 800# pony should have no problem losing around 100 oz. Well, pregnant mares certainly produce gallons of pee too. Free! As far as I know, no one has ever

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-25 Thread Raven
Well, pregnant mares certainly produce gallons of pee too. Free! As far as I know, no one has ever complained about recycling urine into hormones actually karen...there has been alot of complaining about how the mare's urine is collected. it's a inhumane method. Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-25 Thread Raven
but let's keep our eyes focused on the important issues. which are? Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-25 Thread Karen Thomas
actually karen...there has been alot of complaining about how the mare's urine is collected. it's a inhumane method. Yes, I know that and I noted it in the next sentence, if you'd kept reading. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version:

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-25 Thread Karen Thomas
but let's keep our eyes focused on the important issues. which are? I'm sorry, but I thought I was pretty clear when I wrote in the sentence preceding your quote, The issue has been with how the pregnant mares have to be kept in order to collect the free resource, and what to do with the

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-25 Thread Annie Shields
I know what some of the foals are used for. ONe friend of mine has a riding camp for kids and 9 of her riding horses are the grown foals of those mares. I know some other foals that were equally happily placed. I wish those stories were the norm. Annie

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-24 Thread kolugil
What the heck is this all about? What are they using the Ice Ponies for?? I briefly looked at the page the other day, but what happened to it? It appears to be gone now. Judy Hi list I think it´s gone because the foals did arraive to Sweden last week I think it was 20 of them and

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-24 Thread Janice McDonald
in PMU horses, they usually used draft horse mares because they produced a large volume of urine. I would think a pony would not produce so much urine. As for blood, I think someone told me they use horse blood to make certasin anti venoms or something?? Janice-- yipie tie yie yo

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-24 Thread Cherie Mascis
As for blood, I think someone told me they use horse blood to make certain anti venoms or something?? Janice-- yipie tie yie yo Horse and sheep blood is used to make rattlesnake antivenin. Very small amounts of venom are injected into the horse. The amount is gradually increased until the

[IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies

2007-11-23 Thread Judy Ryder
What the heck is this all about? What are they using the Ice Ponies for?? http://tinyurl.com/2rppvn I briefly looked at the page the other day, but what happened to it? It appears to be gone now. Judy