On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 06:23:24PM -0800, Nancy Sturm wrote:
And a friend's endurance horse has nasty white patches on either side of his
spine, just behind the withers. I know we all make mistakes and I surely
have made my share, but I really would feel awful if I were using tack
that
*nod* that is how i feel about my previous experience with the
sensation. i still rub vit e cream on stjarni's back in the hopes that
the white hairs will fade
i *am* trying another sensation, but this one with shorter flaps so i
can use the other stirrup rigging method.
gosh are
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:22:25AM -0600, Janice McDonald wrote:
gosh are you sure the sensation did it Vicka??
yes. he was ridden in treed saddles for eight years, then after the
next coat change after i got the sensation, the white hairs appeared.
talking with my dealer, the white hairs are
gosh are you sure the sensation did it Vicka?? It takes a long long time
for the white to show up! and when it does it usually sheds out and then
if still using the bad saddle will come back. I just find it hard to
believe a sensation could produce such severe nerve damage.
I know
I know first-hand that saddle-induced white hairs can take YEARS to grow
in. Many times the damage is cumulative...and of course, there are times
when the white hairs are totally not related, as I mentioned earlier. I
find it very hard to believe that a Sensation, used for just two
I'd like to see some pics of white hairs on backs that people think
are caused by saddles. Does anyone have pics of this?
Vicka? Do you have some pics of Stjarni's white hairs?
Wanda
On 03/12/2007, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I certainly wouldn't condemn a saddle if a few white hairs show up,
especially if there's no pain...but I also wouldn't count on the absence of
white hairs to prove that all is well.
True. Hreggur's back muscles were terribly atrophied
Hreggur's back muscles were terribly atrophied when he arrived
hereand he didn't have one white hair. So there are many things that
can do damage to a back.
I see that we sent our posts in with the same thoughts, about the same
time...but thinking about different horses.
Karen
all I can think of is if it was caused by the stirrups being free, maybe
from standing in the stirrups for stuff? posting or jumping or something??
Cary and I both ride with the free-hanging stirrups, and Cary weighs over 235.
And, btw, we shouldn't stand in the stirrups when we post to
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 06:05:31PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote:
I find it very hard to believe that a Sensation, used for just two months
prior to a coat change would be the culprit, especially for a 100-ish pound
rider.
i think it was more like six months, and the shape of the white hairs
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 05:17:29PM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote:
Vicka? Do you have some pics of Stjarni's white hairs?
i don't think so, and my camera (and my winter gloves and insulated
paddock boots) are currently among the missing :/
but kaaren, did i send maybe you any pix at the time??
On 12/3/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
gosh are you sure the sensation did it Vicka?? It takes a long long time
for the white to show up! and when it does it usually sheds out and then
if still using the bad saddle will come back. I just find it hard to
believe a sensation
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 05:22:35PM -0600, Janice McDonald wrote:
all I can think of is if it was caused by the stirrups being free,
maybe from standing in the stirrups for stuff? posting or jumping or
something??
very likely, as i both post to the trot and jump, and try to keep my
weight down
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:29:53PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote:
And, btw, we shouldn't stand in the stirrups when we post to the trot. In
my riding lessons over the years, I've had to spend certain amounts of time
posting and two-pointing without stirrups. My daughter's instructor had her
Since everyone seems to be conscious of white hairs appearing on their
horses' backs, here's one more report. Angie has some white hairs on her
back...and she's never worn a saddle. She also has a lot of roan-like
coloring on her face, including that odd white star low on her nose.
Karen
Karen
I was concerned that Hunter had a few white hairs on his back - sort of
silly, actually, because he has a few white hairs interwoven with the black
in places where a saddle never would have touched.
Anyway the saddle fitter laughed at me. He said Those sure didn't come
from THIS saddle.
Nancy
I was concerned that Hunter had a few white hairs on his back - sort of
silly, actually, because he has a few white hairs interwoven with the black
in places where a saddle never would have touched.
I know they CAN indicate a problem, and maybe even they PROBABLY do, but I
have two horses with
When you see a horse who has white hairs from tack or harness, it isn't
particularly subtle.
Dusty, a grade driving pony, came to us with white hair (lots of it) where a
crupper would have rested and also where the saddle part of the harness
would sit.
Twist, the OT Standardbred has white hairs
Twist, the OT Standardbred has white hairs on his legs where the track
hobbles probably rested.
I've seen white dots on TB cannons where they have been pinfired.
Holly has a big white mark on one of her shoulders from an old bite mark.
Thunder has white marks under where his saddle was - but
I think the damage that causes white hairs can happen fairly quickly.
IME it's the appearance of the white hairs that may be delayed until the
growth of the new coat, or it may even be the next same season coat before
the white hair shows up.
That's what I believe too - so it's not terribly
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:05:25AM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote:
I think the damage that causes white hairs can happen fairly quickly.
IME it's the appearance of the white hairs that may be delayed until the
growth of the new coat, or it may even be the next same season coat before
the white
Considering it is new coat time and Vicka is suddenly seeing white hairs,
it's very possibly a recent event that has caused damage.
IME the damage can happen with very brief periods pressure.
Also IME the white hairs can go away if the damage was caused by a very
brief event and was not too
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:58:58AM -0600, IceDog wrote:
Good for you Vicka for trying to identify and remedy the cause of the white
hairs. You may have caught it quickly enough that they may disappear over
time.
thanks for the very kind words!
i hope it does get better. i'm treating the
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 11:39:58AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote:
whoops I guess I only sent the pic of Jas, here is the one of teevs
back from the same saddle pad In my opinion. what hgappens I think is
when nylon webbing gets wet with sweat, and salty, it is very
abrasive!
wow. tivar's
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