Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-10 Thread Judy Ryder
Brachiocephalicus: Wide strap like muscle It's origin is at the base of the skull behind the jaw; and connects to below the point of shoulder to the humerus. The brachio muscle moves the head from side to side, pulls the scapula forward, raises it in collection, swings the foreleg forward.

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-10 Thread Nancy Sturm
I could send you an entire collection of Hunter moving like that, mainly when racking. For him, it seems to be the head and neck position that goes with his preferred gait. As an old hunter/jumper/dressage showring rider, it took a while for me to accept that this was Hunter as he came out of

RE: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-10 Thread Karen Thomas
As an old hunter/jumper/dressage showring rider, it took a while for me to accept that this was Hunter as he came out of the box. That's the $64,000 question, isn't it - what comes from their natural out of the box conformation/wiring, versus what are bad habits? I sure wish I had a crystal

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-10 Thread Nancy Sturm
Because Hunter is a limited distance horse (the shorter version of endurance) his job is to go down the trail as quickly and efficiently as he can while keeping himself safe and healthy. I allow him to pretty much select a gear, sort of the equine version of automatic transmition. He went 30

RE: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-10 Thread Karen Thomas
Before I decided that didn't work for Hunter, he did used to sort of round up to rest his neck and back if I had kept him racking too long. I think it is safer for him to trot when he begins to tire I don't personally know what kind of limits to put on each gait - if there are even valid

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-10 Thread Judy Ryder
The brachio muscle can also give us an indication if we are hanging on to the horse's mouth too much. Where the brachio attaches at the top, take a look, feel around. See if there's an obvious lump-type area which may be stiff. A bulge at the insertion area is something that you want to

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-10 Thread Judy Ryder
As an old hunter/jumper/dressage showring rider, it took a while for me to accept that this was Hunter as he came out of the box. Yes, some horses are born like that, and it's up to us to help them to use their bodies to their advantage when carrying a rider. I think these horses (born with

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-10 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 10/07/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think these horses (born with ewe necks), when starting them, need a lot of long and low and miles of walking with their heads and necks relaxed on a loose rein. Contact and gait training can come in much later down the road. Which is why

RE: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-10 Thread Robyn Hood
Yes, some horses are born like that, and it's up to us to help them to use their bodies to their advantage when carrying a rider. Definitely and it is also important that the type of groundwork we are doing is not inadvertently encouraging the posture. Any type of work that creates a head up,

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-09 Thread Janice McDonald
On 7/9/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's talk about the brachiocephalicus. Does anyone know what the brachiocephalicus is? uhmn no? Janice -- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-09 Thread Anneliese Virro
Does anyone know what the brachiocephalicus is? I don't have my medical or Greek and Latin dictionaries here in KY. But let's see brachius is related to arms; cephalus is skull - so a skull with arms attached? Hahah? Anneliese So Judy, what is it - you would not ask if you did not already

RE: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-09 Thread Karen Thomas
But let's see brachius is related to arms; cephalus is skull - so a skull with arms attached? Hahah? OR...maybe the area between the arms and the skull...? The neck...? Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 /

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-09 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 09/07/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But let's see brachius is related to arms; cephalus is skull - so a skull with arms attached? Hahah? OR...maybe the area between the arms and the skull...? The neck...? When in doubt google... http://www.justequine.com/photos.html You'll

RE: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-09 Thread Karen Thomas
Does anyone know what the brachiocephalicus is? Not really. I did a google search on it, and all I found was pretty technical. Can you get us started? Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database:

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-09 Thread Bia
this is what it says on the link that was posted a few posts ago... Brachiocephalicus permits the neck to bend and it also moves the shoulder forward. If your horse has problems bending to the inside, massaging of these muscles will help allow a greater range of motion in the neck.

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-09 Thread Bia
this is what it says on the link that was posted a few posts ago... Brachiocephalicus permits the neck to bend and it also moves the shoulder forward. If your horse has problems bending to the inside, massaging of these muscles will help allow a greater range of motion in the neck. here's

Re: [IceHorses] Brachiocephalicus

2007-07-09 Thread Judy Ryder
Does anyone know what the brachiocephalicus is? I don't have my medical or Greek and Latin dictionaries here in KY. But let's see brachius is related to arms; cephalus is skull - so a skull with arms attached? Hahah? That was a great guess, Anneliese! Here's what it is: