When I was looking at gaited horses for endurance, one of them was a field
trial horse. I'd probably have gone up to look at her, but before I could
figure out how to manage crossing with truck and trailer on a ferry to the
Washington island she lived on, she was sold. We had seen people backing
On 9/6/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about the dogs? Are they covering that kind of ground too? Or is it
> because the field follows many more than one dog?
>
> Nancy
>
it is one dog being judged, he is running looking for birds to flush,
followed by one rider who owns him a
What about the dogs? Are they covering that kind of ground too? Or is it
because the field follows many more than one dog?
Nancy
On 9/6/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Two hundred to 300 gaited horses all in one place? I'm speechless.
>
> The last endurance ride we did, I think in my division (25 miles) there were
> five gaited horses.
The Alabama state horse is the Racking Horse and I live 40 miles from
alab
>oh boy you stepped in it there Mic haha! for one thing, most if not
>all gaited horses gait better without being brought into "collection"
Nope, you did (HA HA HA). I didn't mention tolt or pace at all, just
"starting", ie probably trot or canter. ; )
>horse has to "set his head" to gait etc. S
Two hundred to 300 gaited horses all in one place? I'm speechless.
The last endurance ride we did, I think in my division (25 miles) there were
five gaited horses. I didn't count at the time, but I think Hunter may have
been the first gaited horse to finish. He was 12th with another TWH right
b
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:59:22 -0400, you wrote:
>Why would it be? Starting a horse, is starting a horse. Period. And why
>would loose rein NOT be a goal for riding Icelandic's? It certainly is for
>us.
Yes, but in the majority of the world people want Icelandics to learn
collection, not peanu
>>Traditional western starts with a bosal, natural horsemanship with a
halter.
Yes, but Western is a different kettle of fish all together, aiming
towards loose rein/long and low, and comparing Icelandics with Western is a
bit like chalk and cheese.
You are aware that "western" is a broad
>>Traditional western starts with a bosal, natural horsemanship with a
halter.
Yes, but Western is a different kettle of fish all together, aiming
towards loose rein/long and low, and comparing Icelandics with Western is a
bit like chalk and cheese.
Why would it be? Starting a horse, is
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:50:17 -0700, you wrote:
>> Most trainers here tend to start out with a Cavesson rather than a
>> drop noseband. Is it different there?
>
>Traditional western starts with a bosal, natural horsemanship with a halter.
Yes, but Western is a different kettle of fish all together,
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:46:44 -0500, you wrote:
>They do that here with walking horses, a cavesson, but really tight,
The cavessons here are all pretty loose, at least those I've seen.
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
>>Mic do you see any trainers who work with Icelandics who spend time on
>>getting a horse to accept the bit (without using nosebands)?
>
> No, not really. The majority seem to go straight from a
> headcollar/halter to a bridle with snaffle bit and noseband.
Interesting.
>>I can't believe that
On 9/5/07, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Most trainers here tend to start out with a Cavesson rather than a
> drop noseband. Is it different there?
>
> Mic
>
They do that here with walking horses, a cavesson, but really tight,
wanting them to keep from getting their tongue over to a
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:16:47 -0700, you wrote:
>Mic do you see any trainers who work with Icelandics who spend time on
>getting a horse to accept the bit (without using nosebands)?
No, not really. The majority seem to go straight from a
headcollar/halter to a bridle with snaffle bit and noseband.
> The snaffle version of that bit (ie with that sort of mouthpiece) is
> sold as an answer to horses which put their tongues over the bit (as
> opposed to spending the time getting the horse to accept the bit
> properly). Betting than tying the tongue down, I suppose...
Mic do you see any train
>That's a new one on me. I don't think I've ever seen a joint in a ported
>bit before. I almost missed that the one in the picture has a joint, but
>it's clear when you zoom in.
>
The snaffle version of that bit (ie with that sort of mouthpiece) is
sold as an answer to horses which put their ton
I've attached a couple.
That's a new one on me. I don't think I've ever seen a joint in a ported
bit before. I almost missed that the one in the picture has a joint, but
it's clear when you zoom in.
Karen Thomas, NC
>>>Not all Icelandic bits
> have a joint - some have a straight mouthpiece. They are also
> available with a French link mouthpiece.
Are there pictures available of these styles?
>>If so, what would the reason be?
> To encourage ventroflexion, I would think.
Would it also ventroflex the horse
..> A lot of people use them here (not that many for
> Icelandics though).
> They are always used with 2 reins though, (or at
> least a joiner)
> unlike the Icelandic bit.
>
I have been using a bit on Scooter that you all would
cringe. I forget what it is called. It doesn't
bother him at all.
> If you really want to cringe, watch some of the
> Western movies
> (especially the old ones) and watch how they pull on
> the reins with
> those long shanks and the horses are gaping their
> mouths open trying
> to get away from the pain. I just about can't watch
> those movies
> anymore because
>How long are the shanks on the Pelhams?
Shorter than the Icelandic bit - about 4 inches, roughly.>
>
>Do any gaited breeds currently use a long shank with a broken mouthpiece?
Here's a selection:
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://equineusaonline.com/catalog/images/334bitweb.jpg&imgr
On 9/4/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are broken-mouth Pelhams, which I wouldn't use, but that would
> probably be the closest thing to an Icelandic bit in the "English"
> world.<<<
>
> How long are the shanks on the Pelhams?
>
>
My pelhams on the lowest ring have
There are broken-mouth Pelhams, which I wouldn't use, but that would
probably be the closest thing to an Icelandic bit in the "English"
world.<<<
How long are the shanks on the Pelhams?
> Many of the bits from "old" gaited horse cultures (Peruvians, Pasos,
> various African gait
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:15:21 -0400, you wrote:
> There are broken-mouth Pelhams, which I wouldn't use, but that would probably
> be the closest thing to an Icelandic bit in the "English" world. I don't
> really know many people who use them though.
A lot of people use them here (not that many
>>> Is there anything comparable in english riding, or classical riding, to
>>> the icelandic bit?
>> a tom thumb.
Remember, "Tom Thumb" just means short, a reference to an old circus character,
I think. You'd have to clarify if you mean a Tom Thumb Pelham or Tom Thumb
snaffle...and of c
If you really want to cringe, watch some of the Western movies
(especially the old ones) and watch how they pull on the reins with those
long shanks and the horses are gaping their mouths open trying to get away
from the pain. I just about can't watch those movies anymore because of it
Yeah,
> Is there anything comparable in english riding, or classical riding, to the
> icelandic bit?
a tom thumb.
janice--
yipie tie yie yo
> The shanked snaffle in western is similar and although it shouldn't be used
> with a lot of contact sometimes it is.
If you really want to cringe, watch some of the Western movies
(especially the old ones) and watch how they pull on the reins with
those long shanks and the horses are gaping thei
Hi Judy,
>>>Snaffles, single-joined, can cause a lot of harm to a horse, especially
those who have low palates, which Icelandics tend to have.
Yes any bit can cause harm if used incorrectly.
>>>What about the icelandic bit?
I am not a fan the way. I have ridden in one at a couple of WC but t
> Using a western curb bit does not mean that you are riding "western".
> There's more to the discipline than the tack.
Using a snaffle does not mean you are riding or practicing english style.
Snaffles, single-joined, can cause a lot of harm to a horse, especially
those who have low palates,
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