At 18.23 -0700 00-06-21, Bill Manning wrote:
Did the IESG depricate IP over Avian Carrier when I blinked?
And the draft on IP over seismic waves is due any day now.
Don't forget
1926 An Experimental Encapsulation of IP Datagrams on Top of ATM. J.
Eriksson. April 1996.
Mohsen;
Masataka WAP and IP over NAT are equally bad.
We have two sets of problems and layering helps here.
At layer 3, we need to make things end-to-end.
At layer 7, the WAP approach is simply the wrong approach.
I'm operating on all the layers.
We need competition in the
For all the ASN.1 folks out there:
I'm in the midst of writing up the OID URN namespace document
(see http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mealling-oid-urn-00.txt)
and it has come to my attention that none of the ASN.1 standards
define the dot-notation that we use in all sorts of RFCs.
From: Patrik Fältström [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IP over MIME (was Re: WAP Is A Trap -- Reject WAP)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:02:56 +0200
At 13.37 +0200 00-06-22, Magnus Danielson wrote:
1926 An Experimental Encapsulation of IP Datagrams on Top of ATM. J.
Eriksson. April
Bill Manning wrote:
And the draft on IP over seismic waves is due any day now.
Security Considerations: since the most effective way to generate seismic
waves is with a nuclear device, users of this protocol can expect to be
secured by their governments for a very long time.
--
From: John Stracke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IP over MIME (was Re: WAP Is A Trap -- Reject WAP)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:03:12 -0400
Bill Manning wrote:
And the draft on IP over seismic waves is due any day now.
Security Considerations: since the most effective way to
Did the IESG depricate IP over Avian Carrier when I blinked?
And the draft on IP over seismic waves is due any day now.
Consider the possibilities of a neutrino beam -- no media costs and
lower latency than direct point-to-point fiber.
There were quite lot of responses to my mail on this topic so here is
what I have to say. It is hard to defend the WAP as only possible
solution or the most elegant solution for any one. Though in the past
few years I spent quite lot of time thinking about how to make data
applications run with
Consider the possibilities of a neutrino beam -- no media costs and
lower latency than direct point-to-point fiber.
I think IP over Human Alpha Waves (IP-HAW) might be promising, too.
RGF
Robert G. Ferrell
Who goeth without humor goeth unarmed.
I have seen a lot of different people bash WAP over the past two days.
However, I am a firm believer that WAP will become what IP is to us today.
How nice to have firm belief-systems. What I write here are only my personal
opinions.
I posted Rohit's tour of the tangle when I was at Nokia
Given that the CRAPS BOF announcement has been sent out by Scott, Phil and I
would like to send out an invitation to anyone that wishes to have a slot at
the BOF in Pittsburgh. However, given that we have little face to face time,
we would stress that we are interested in "presentations" that
It's my understanding that disturbances in The Force
were actually routed using an ancient precursor to IP.
C_
At 09:57 AM 6/22/00 -0500, Matt Crawford wrote:
Did the IESG depricate IP over Avian Carrier when I blinked?
And the draft on IP over seismic waves is due any day now.
Chuck writes,
It's my understanding that disturbances in The Force
were actually routed using an ancient precursor to IP.
I don't know about it, but the myth goes that ET communicated with his
folks using IP :-). The captured packet trace is
"UndecodableDatalink:IPheader:TCPheader:"ET go
nice call
--john
-Original Message-
From: Brijesh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 3:18 PM
To: 'Chuck Kaekel'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IP over MIME (was Re: WAP Is A Trap -- Reject WAP)
Chuck writes,
It's my understanding that
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:02:39 +0100 (BST), Lloyd Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Lloyd And from that anti-WAP polemic:
Mohsen We gratefully acknowledge the assistance of the
Mohsen following persons in the preparation and review of
Mohsen this document: Andrew Hammoude, Richard
At 11:39 22.06.2000 -0400, Brijesh Kumar wrote:
and I noticed that packet loss could be as much as 3 %. CDPD
modem that I used gave me about 1100 byte throughput using TCP (well,
half the channel went in framing overheads of the MDLP and over the
air protocol, and TCP slow starts.). With these
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
Add to
that even if there was enough bandwidth, small screen's on some of the
today's devices can't meaningfully display all contents of modern web
sites.
Neither can Lynx, a popular text-mode browser.
The fact is that the Internet
Michael Mealling sent :
For all the ASN.1 folks out there:
I'm in the midst of writing up the OID URN namespace document
(see http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mealling-oid-urn-00.txt)
and it has come to my attention that none of the ASN.1 standards
define the dot-notation that
The notation of OID strings as 1.3.6.1.4.1 started appearing in the ISODE
ASN.1 compiler, in the late 80's. It was not part of the ASN.1 standard; in
fact, ASN.1 defines its own set of format, that can mix numbers and
litterals. In ASN.1, this was called a "value notation." A standard ASN.1
Bill Manning wrote:
And the draft on IP over seismic waves is due any day now.
Security Considerations: since the most effective way to generate seismic
waves is with a nuclear device, users of this protocol can expect to be
secured by their governments for a very long
Probably, there is some universe out there made of AnTi-Matter and where
anti-packets are mostly routed using anti-IP, or in other words...ATM.
:)
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Brijesh Kumar wrote:
Chuck writes,
It's my understanding that disturbances in The Force
were actually routed using
-Original Message-
From: Brijesh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 1:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: WAP and IP
There were quite lot of responses to my mail on this topic so here is
what I have to say. It is hard to defend the WAP as only possible
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