> I guess one of the first questions should be; "Is some partitioning of the
> Internet community such a bad thing?"...
If the "partition" intended for discussion is "@sign vs !path" addressing
conventions, Eric Allman and Peter Honeyman have left a discussion archive
on the subject. Arguably t
At 05:00 PM 12/4/2000 -0500, Dan Kolis wrote:
>In the present regime, its not surprising the frist below does not resolve
>and the second does:
>
>http://www.déjà.fr/
>http://www.deja.fr/
>
>
>In the proposed regime, its not obvious what to do from a purely consumer
>point of view.
Depends on who
> actually your urls could be:
>
> http://www.bq--aduwvya.fr/
> http://www.deja.fr/
>
> a application may render the bq--aduwvya.fr as déjà.fr or it may not.
> Finally it would be up to the URDP process or the courts as to *if* the
> two domains are the same. We shouldn't worry what the URD
I suggest you look in on the IDN working group, review their
documents if you have not done so, and then take this
discussion up on theiir mailing list if you aren't satisfied
with the answers you get.
john
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--On Monday, December 04, 2000 5:00 PM -0500 Dan Kolis
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Dan,
actually your urls could be:
http://www.bq--aduwvya.fr/
http://www.deja.fr/
a application may render the bq--aduwvya.fr as déjà.fr or it may not.
Finally it would be up to the URDP process or the courts as to *if* the
two domains are the same. We shouldn't worry what the URDP or the c
In the present regime, its not surprising the frist below does not resolve
and the second does:
http://www.déjà.fr/
http://www.deja.fr/
In the proposed regime, its not obvious what to do from a purely consumer
point of view. Verisigns view would be each is completely unique. ICANN's
dispute res
> So, at a minimum, we need an IETF
> specification on how to detect that a domain name part is using a non ascii
> encoding, so that DNS servers don't get lost.
We need a great deal more than that.
The real impact of internationalizing DNS names isn't with the DNS
protocol or software itself (
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 13:17:45 EST, vint cerf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > to incorporate and refer to domain names. The IA4 alphabet
> includes essentially
> > just the letters A-Z, numbers 0-9 and the "-" (dash). This
> is the limit of what
> > is allowed in domain names today.
>
> The sad
Suggesting is to run this meeting 7.30-8.30. I.e. only one hour, and
with a fixed closing time.
I think that is a good idea.
Patrik
At 08.32 -0800 00-12-04, Patrik Fältström wrote:
>As usual we have planned a wg/bof chair thursday evening.
>
>If people think the meeting is not necessary, l
As usual we have planned a wg/bof chair thursday evening.
If people think the meeting is not necessary, let me know, and we'll
cancel. As it is now, the meeting is "on".
>The APPS working group chair meeting is scheduled for Thursday,
>December 14 at 1800-2200 in Marina 2 at the Sheraton San Di
>>At least the drafts coming into the IETF don't show the
>>same behavior as scientific papers, which is that title
>>length directly correlates with the number of authors.
perhaps we shpould encourage i-ds (and rfcs) to have authors from as
many countries as possible so that they can be s
>Wasn't there a Dilbert cartoon regarding sending a page to a pager number
>containing a caret? ;)
It was a tilde.
;-)
RGF
Robert G. Ferrell, CISSP
Information Systems Security Officer
National Business Center
U. S. Dept. of the Interior
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==
"James P. Salsman" wrote:
> QUALCOMM is headquartered in San Diego. I hope a lot of IETFers
> have the opportunity to request the feature in person. Maybe
> this will be made easier by the fact that they are co-hosting the
> terminal room.
It's unlikely that the people running the terminal roo
On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 13:17:45 EST, vint cerf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> to incorporate and refer to domain names. The IA4 alphabet includes essentially
> just the letters A-Z, numbers 0-9 and the "-" (dash). This is the limit of what
> is allowed in domain names today.
The sad part is, of cours
On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:00:53 PST, lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> "I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to figure out how to type that email
> address on my keyboard, could you please send me a message, and I'll just hit
> reply".
Wasn't there a Dilbert cartoon regarding sending a page to a pag
>From: Matt Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 5:56 AM
>Subject: Re: How many cooks?
> > Is the IETF now competing with scholarly journals in the race
for
> > ``most authors on a single paper''? (No offense intended to
the
> > parties listed a
At 10:59 PM 12/4/00 +0859, Masataka Ohta wrote:
> > Thank you. I was hoping someone would point out the support for parallel
> > operation so we could go further down that path. As you note, it seems to
> > be the closest to providing local/global support already.
>
>Silly comparison.
Thank you
Dave;
> Thank you. I was hoping someone would point out the support for parallel
> operation so we could go further down that path. As you note, it seems to
> be the closest to providing local/global support already.
Silly comparison.
Efficient postal system works with numbers so called zip
> Is the IETF now competing with scholarly journals in the race for
> ``most authors on a single paper''? (No offense intended to the
> parties listed above, but you'll pardon me if I get a little
> uncomfortable with the idea of a 29-page document having 26 official
> authors.)
Relax. For pers
Thank you. I was hoping someone would point out the support for parallel
operation so we could go further down that path. As you note, it seems to
be the closest to providing local/global support already.
That means postal gives us:
1. Global support for a common "character set"
2. Global
At 00/12/03 13:57 -0500, Dave Crocker wrote:
>Would it be such a bad thing to be unable to postal mail a letter or
>package to anywhere in the world?
Of course it would be very bad. But it is usual now to send mail
e.g. from Japan to Japan with an address without any Latin letters.
It is also po
At 00/12/03 08:03 +, Graham Klyne wrote:
>There's a news story at:
>
> http://www.acm.org/technews/articles/2000-2/1201f.html#item10
>
>under the heading "Will Language Wars Balkanize the Web?"
>
>Leaving aside the issues of competing registries,
Sorry, but I think that's the main topic of
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
> At 11:40 04/12/2000 +0900, Lee, Jiwoong wrote:
> >Neophyte speaker question:
> >
> >Is a piece of 2HD disk enough to give a presentation at 49th IETF meeting?
> >Then, when shall I 'put' it into a laptop?
>
> recent meetings, the secretariat (or the
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