Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Denis Mcmahon
On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:57:53 -0500 (EST), you wrote: 1. Should the IETF elist messages be scanned for viruses? This would require that appropriate virus detection software exist in the environment that the mail list is operated. Are you aware of eg an Acorn Archimedes virus scanner that runs

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Francis Dupont
Vernon, I fully agree with you: there is no reason to get multipart messages in technical discussion mailing lists. Even if your solution seems drastic this is the way we should go. Thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Jon Crowcroft
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Francis D upont typed: Vernon, I fully agree with you: there is no reason to get multipart messages in technical discussion mailing lists. Even if your solution seems drastic this is the way we should go. i'd prefer to see us develop a more 21st century

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Michael Richardson
"James" == James M Galvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James On the other hand, I think it's a feature to be able to send documents James (even text-based documents) as attachments as opposed to inline and I James further consider it a feature that Internet Draft announcements and RFC

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Harald Alvestrand
fwiw, ietf+censored currently has the following set of filters in taboo_body: /^Antigen for Exchange found/ /^Virus Notification: A virus has been detected/ /^Antivirus Utility for Exchange found .* infected/ /^Content-Type: application\/x-msdownload/i the last one is ONLY included because I

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Matt Crawford
Please point to an example of a useful multipart message seen in this list or that might someday be useful in this mailing list. I have sent to wg lists a multipart containing a preamble and an internet-draft or similar file. This makes it easy for recipients to save the draft as-is.

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread James M Galvin
This distinction between filtering content and virus scanning is confusing because they are not the same thing. To choose to filter content (restrict it to text/plain or some other limited set) would be changing the policy of this elist. That is more than an operational decision and probably

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread chris d koeberle
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, James M Galvin wrote: I think this discussion needs to separate at least two distinct issues. 1. Should the IETF elist messages be scanned for viruses? 2. Should the IETF elist restrict the type of content that can be submitted? Bear this in mind when you say that

multipart/signed (was Re: Eliminating Virus Spam )

2001-01-04 Thread Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
The fact that very few can/do create/verify multipart/signed email is mostly a statement on the extremely sad state of security on the Internet; to which I guess I'm contributing by not signing my mail :-( The use of authenticating tehcnology (even if it is just to authenticate that two

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Keith Moore
second, if someone must send an executable attachment , then we have a signing server that signs the attachment as trustworthy and how, and using what criteria, would the signing server evaluate the trustworthiness of the attachment? e.g. I might consider an attachment that installed NetBSD

Technical Internet Advancements for White House Internet Strategies

2001-01-04 Thread Steven Clift
I am looking for a few leading Internet technical experts to contribute their ideas for an online conference on the *use* of the Internet by the next White House. What advancing Internet standards and tools should be considered? What would you do if you were in charge? What could the White

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Vernon Schryver
From: Jon Crowcroft [EMAIL PROTECTED] i'd prefer to see us develop a more 21st century solution first, we should register mime types that we DO allow on a list second, if someone must send an executable attachment , then we have a signing server that signs the attachment as trustworthy -

Re: Technical Internet Advancements for White House Internet Strategies

2001-01-04 Thread Jon Crowcroft
some of the folks on this list aren't american or US citezens and might think that this is a bit presumptious.but here goes:- the first thing the white house should do is educate its customers and organise voting properly the next thing it should do is apply for membership of the European

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Vernon Schryver
From: "Matt Crawford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please point to an example of a useful multipart message seen in this list or that might someday be useful in this mailing list. I have sent to wg lists a multipart containing a preamble and an internet-draft or similar file. This makes it easy

Re: Technical Internet Advancements for White House Internet Strategies

2001-01-04 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jon Crowcroft writes: some of the folks on this list aren't american or US citezens and might think that this is a bit presumptious.but here goes:- I think you're over-assuming -- from looking at the Web site, I did not get the impression that this was in any

Re: Technical Internet Advancements for White House Internet Strategies

2001-01-04 Thread Robert G. Ferrell
the next thing it should do is apply for membership of the European Union I'm unclear on this concept. Wouldn't it rather make a mockery of the EU (or at least of the name) if countries from outside Europe start joining up? Sort of like admitting Japan into NATO. RGF Robert G. Ferrell,

Re: Technical Internet Advancements for White House Internet Strategies

2001-01-04 Thread Eric Brunner
following that, the use of other languages might be a considerably benefit - e.g. spanish, chinese and hopi spring to mind Add Dineh (Navaho), don't want to inflame the Joint-Use Area conflict any further, though Hopi do go Republican (those who "vote"), unlike the majority of Dinetah and

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sending of IDs to the WG lists is a terrible practice. Sending short IDs to WG lists or longer IDs in parts as the WG goes over them results, in my experience, in more detailed and easier to follow comments than pointers. YMMV. It's not

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 09:40:41 MST, Vernon Schryver [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It would be more of a 21st century something to have the IETF join Microsoft in equating authentication (e.g. signing) with authorization (e.g. who gets to run programs on your computers). However, "solution" is not