Re: Fwd: Re: IP: Microsoft breaks Mime specification

2002-01-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:30:48 PST, Einar Stefferud said: > At the minimum, such violations of IETF Standards should be formally > noted in a letter from the IAB to the offending vendor, whoever that > might be, when such information becomes available to the IESG or the > IAB. >PS:I

Re: IP: Microsoft breaks Mime specification

2002-01-22 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ... > I think the reason Einar forwarded it was for this: > > >The problem is that due to the Market share of Microsoft an error in a > >Microsoft program may force non-Microsoft users to make changes, and > >possibly also imply a loss of mail functionality. > > There

Bandwidth? BANDWIDTH! We do (maybe) need more stinking bandwidth

2002-01-22 Thread Dan Kolis
Seemingly of interest specifically to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> At 08:57 PM 1/21/2002 -0800, Lixia Zhang wrote: >>> Note I am not saying MPLS is the right solution for the problem. >>> To me the right solution to the above mentioned problem should be a >>> m

Re: Fwd: Re: IP: Microsoft breaks Mime specification

2002-01-22 Thread Einar Stefferud
At the minimum, such violations of IETF Standards should be formally noted in a letter from the IAB to the offending vendor, whoever that might be, when such information becomes available to the IESG or the IAB. Among other things, such notices would result in a formally recorded track record

Re: IP: Microsoft breaks Mime specification

2002-01-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:40:41 +0100, Randy Bush said: > > This needs to be given some attention in the IETF...\Stef > > ok. i give. why? > > there are only a few thousand of us, far too few to fix microsoft's > bugs. and we don't have the source anyway. We can't fix their bugs. I think the r

Please note this was NOT from me to the list but was redirected by Stef to the list (a bad practice)

2002-01-22 Thread David Farber
>Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:37:02 -0800 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (by way of Einar Stefferud) >Subject: IP: Microsoft breaks Mime specification >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >This needs to be given some attention in the IETF...\Stef >

Re: IP: Microsoft breaks Mime specification

2002-01-22 Thread Randy Bush
> This needs to be given some attention in the IETF...\Stef ok. i give. why? there are only a few thousand of us, far too few to fix microsoft's bugs. and we don't have the source anyway.

IP: Microsoft breaks Mime specification

2002-01-22 Thread David Farber
This needs to be given some attention in the IETF...\Stef >Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:25:45 + (GMT Standard Time) >From: Frode Greisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Dave > >Using Pine as my mailer I found Microsoft XP outlook users could not read >my attachments