Re: Barrel-bottom scraping

2003-03-23 Thread Dave Crocker
John, JAL> Aren't we being a bit holery-than-though? Are we suggesting that we are JAL> superior than tourists, marketers, mangagers? of course. but separate from the possibility of ethnocentric arrogance is the reality of distraction. to the extent that such participation makes it difficult fo

Re: Barrel-bottom scraping

2003-03-23 Thread grenville armitage
"John A. Loughney" wrote: [..] > Aren't we being a bit holery-than-though? Are we suggesting that we are > superior than tourists, marketers, mangagers? If one isn't any better than tourists, marketers or mangagers then I'd suggest one re-thinks why one is attending _working_ group meeti

RE: Barrel-bottom scraping

2003-03-23 Thread Franck Martin
Is that called INET meetings? Franck Martin > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hoffman / IMC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 24 March 2003 12:11 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Barrel-bottom scraping > > > At 12:05 AM +0200 3/24/03, Pekka Savola wrote: > >I fail to see

Re: Barrel-bottom scraping

2003-03-23 Thread Paul Hoffman / IMC
At 12:05 AM +0200 3/24/03, Pekka Savola wrote: I fail to see what added value they might bring They could be very useful to explaining to our management and marketing departments and so on the value of standards, particularly IETF standards. Further, because most companies focus on a small part

Re: slide fonts

2003-03-23 Thread Scott W Brim
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 02:58:47PM -0800, Randy Presuhn allegedly wrote: > Black and white is the sensible choice. I recall one > presentation that used red to identify important points. > It will probably lose much of its impact in the hardcopy > proceedings. :-) I don't know anyone who has asked

Re: slide fonts

2003-03-23 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Dave Crocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Perry E. Metzger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: slide fonts ... > The usual rule is never go below 18pt. 24-28pt is the better choice. > > Equally important is contrast.

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2003-03-23 Thread anthony
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Re: Barrel-bottom scraping

2003-03-23 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, John A. Loughney wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 06:58:32AM +0200, Pekka Savola allegedly wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > > > [...] However, I think doing some ISOC/IETF joint > > > > tutorials just before an IETF is definitely worth a try. > > >

Re: Tutorials

2003-03-23 Thread Randy Bush
> Since they would be taught by IETF engineers, probably for > not all that much money, it seems a bit onerous to ask the > benefactors to do more travel so that they carry out a difficult > task mostly for the benefit of the IETF. > ... charlie, you're talking to someone who has spent a considera

Tutorials

2003-03-23 Thread Charlie Perkins
Hello Randy, Since they would be taught by IETF engineers, probably for not all that much money, it seems a bit onerous to ask the benefactors to do more travel so that they carry out a difficult task mostly for the benefit of the IETF. Someone else pointed out that tutorials don't automatically m

Re: Barrel-bottom scraping

2003-03-23 Thread Randy Bush
> I think that ISOC/IETF tutorials could be a very good idea. It would at > least give us the opportunity to brain-wash others for the things which > we believe. yup. but, as one would want them done by the well clued and best speakers, it would be nice if they were not too close to ietf meeting

Re: Barrel-bottom scraping

2003-03-23 Thread John A. Loughney
Hi all, > On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 06:58:32AM +0200, Pekka Savola allegedly wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > > [...] However, I think doing some ISOC/IETF joint > > > tutorials just before an IETF is definitely worth a try. > > > > That would unarguably incur a clear increa

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