Re: Notes from this week's Plenaries

2003-11-14 Thread Franck Martin
Reading this set of notes on security, SPAM and viruses. I would like to modestly contribute: -Ends cannot be trusted: I think any security implementation needs to be done on the routers part of the BGP. I think you can control the BGP people better than the ends. AS numbers would be

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread Doug Barton
Marcus Leech wrote: Atheros released open-source linux drivers for their chips and the corresponding reference design. I don't know which cards use the Atheros chipset, other than ours. The atheros folks are also cooperating with the FreeBSD project, so they are making a good commitment to

TCP OVER OBS [EXPERTS PLEASE SUGGEST]

2003-11-14 Thread Syed Murtaza Haider Bilgrami
Hi, How we can calculate TCP send rate i.e TCP packet per second for bursty traffic in ns? I would like to have 1Gb link with 1000 byte TCP packet size. I am using the formula: TCP (send rate) = Average (Window)/Average(RTT) I have implemented the loss module on the link for packet drops at

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread Jim Martin
On Nov 13, 2003, at 12:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote: Note that getting 802.11a works even better. until everybody does, and 'everbody' is twice as many people as now Actually, no. 802.11a is inherently better for this sort of environment than 802.11b or 802.11g. Instead of having 3 non-overlapping

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread Roland Bless
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:22:25 -0500 Theodore Ts'o [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another suggestion - it would have been real useful if the software on my laptop could have been told to ignore some APs (or some other laptops pretending to be APs), or to only listen to this other set of APs.

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread Tim Chown
Deploy both and we can suck it and see... On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 02:15:39PM -0800, Jim Martin wrote: On Nov 13, 2003, at 12:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote: Note that getting 802.11a works even better. until everybody does, and 'everbody' is twice as many people as now Actually, no.

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Jim Martin wrote: On Nov 13, 2003, at 12:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote: Note that getting 802.11a works even better. until everybody does, and 'everbody' is twice as many people as now Actually, no. 802.11a is inherently better for this sort of environment

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:51:34PM +0100, Roland Bless wrote: You're lucky that your driver and card support this. I don't know if there's a way to make this work for those cards where the ap selection is done in firmware. Unfortunately, the driver for my Lucent card doesn't support

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread shogunx
Unfortunately, the driver for my Lucent card doesn't support this command and I presume that it's not possible w/ the current firmware. As someone already stated: though the card was quite good and stable at past meetings, this time it was really annoying. Either the firmware needs an update

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread Roland Bless
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:51:57 -0500 (EST) shogunx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, the driver for my Lucent card doesn't support this command and I presume that it's not possible w/ the current firmware. As someone already stated: though the card was quite good and stable at past

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread shogunx
Roland, Though I'm able to do this (which may not be true for other linux users), and, it really costs a lot of time to do it. I've done it several times at past meetings, because the driver wasn't stable enough and crashed my kernel several times. Which driver/kernel version are you

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Jim Martin wrote: I strongly encourage people to consider bringing 802.11a cards to future meetings! (Note: Of course, now that I've said that, the future hosts will decide against deploying it) If we go for 802.11a, I sugggest that we ask a vendor (or two) to

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread Michael Richardson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Theodore == Theodore Ts'o [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Theodore On Linux machines, as root type the command: Theodore iwconfig eth1 ap 00:0C:30:1A:69:A2 Theodore To force the access point to be 00:0c:30:1A:69:A2 Theodore I don't know if there's

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-14 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
This is not the solution. I'm not going to change the technology that I use because we haven't been able to setup a good network here. We should learn from the mistakes and do it better next time, as we know it worked in Vienna. I use b or g, because is what I carry with me, and I will not