Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-hip-mm-04.txt

2007-01-31 Thread Christian Vogt
Ah, very good! Thanks for the pointer, Sam. - Christian -- Christian Vogt, Institute of Telematics, Universitaet Karlsruhe (TH) www.tm.uka.de/~chvogt/pubkey/ Sam Hartman wrote: Christian == Christian Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian unamplified flooding would also be possible

Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-01-31 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-01-31 00:35, Ned Freed wrote: ... More generally, I have a problem with normative cituations to BCP and STD numbers since the underlying document can change. That's arguably OK for an informational citation, but IMO normative references may have version dependencies that need to be taken

Re: Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-01-31 Thread Ned Freed
On 2007-01-31 00:35, Ned Freed wrote: ... More generally, I have a problem with normative cituations to BCP and STD numbers since the underlying document can change. That's arguably OK for an informational citation, but IMO normative references may have version dependencies that need to be

Re: Last Call: draft-siemborski-rfc2554bis (SMTP Service Extension for Authentication) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-31 Thread Philip Guenther
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Lisa Dusseault wrote: Hi Philip, thanks for the review. But are we looking at the same version of this doc? We dealt with this after doing a pseudo-WG-last-call on the SMTP mailing list and the -07 draft now has: Dang. I had pulled down the newer revision of

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign (Cryptographic MessageSyntax (CMS) Multiple Signer Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-31 Thread Denis Pinkas
Dear all, I have substantive comments that were initially raised during the S-MIME WG last call (December 1, 2006) and that have not been incorporated into the draft. The major issue is that the draft is proposing to state: (...) the successful validation of one signature associated with

Re: Last Call: draft-siemborski-rfc1734bis (POP3 SASL Authentication Mechanism) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-31 Thread Chris Newman
I have reviewed this document and support moving it forward on the standards track. On procedural nit: In section 4, the document states: The service name specified by this protocol's profile of SASL is pop. A note in the IANA Considerations section is needed which directs

Re: Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-01-31 Thread Dave Crocker
Ned Freed wrote: informational citation, but IMO normative references may have version dependencies that need to be taken into account. I think that is absolutely correct for technical specs. In the specific case of the IPR process documents, which Spencer raised, it may well be that the

RE: Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-01-31 Thread Eric Gray \(LO/EUS\)
Dave, Interestingly enough, your observation provides the strongest argument I've yet seen for assigning a standard number to any RFC that has becomes a Proposed Standard. -- Eric -Original Message- From: Dave Crocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 31,

Re: Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-01-31 Thread Dave Crocker
Eric Gray (LO/EUS) wrote: Dave, Interestingly enough, your observation provides the strongest argument I've yet seen for assigning a standard number to any RFC that has becomes a Proposed Standard. Well, it's a double-edged capability. All of the concerns about citing the latest

RE: Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-01-31 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 31 January, 2007 10:17 -0600 Eric Gray \\(LO/EUS\\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, Interestingly enough, your observation provides the strongest argument I've yet seen for assigning a standard number to any RFC that has becomes a Proposed Standard. Anyone who wants

Re: Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-01-31 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 31 January, 2007 11:50 +0100 Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-01-31 00:35, Ned Freed wrote: ... More generally, I have a problem with normative cituations to BCP and STD numbers since the underlying document can change. That's arguably OK for an

Re: Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-01-31 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:54:26 -0500 John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except for the fact that the material being cited contains the specifics of license and IPR releases, and promises to abide by certain rules, by the authors. Authors can't reasonably be asked to agree to something

ion-agenda-and-minutes open for public comment

2007-01-31 Thread Brian Carpenter
An ION (IETF Operational Note, see RFC 4693) is open for public comment on the ietf@ietf.org list. Comments should be sent by 2007-02-12. Note that some early reviewers have suggested that this document is not really needed, since IETF minutes are already of a good enough standard. Opinions on

ion-procdocs open for public comment

2007-01-31 Thread Brian Carpenter
An ION (IETF Operational Note, see RFC 4693) is open for public comment on the ietf@ietf.org list. Comments should be sent by 2007-02-12. Please see http://www.ietf.org/IESG/content/ions/drafts/ion-procdocs.html ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-01-31 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Dave Crocker writes: Eric Gray (LO/EUS) wrote: Interestingly enough, your observation provides the strongest argument I've yet seen for assigning a standard number to any RFC that has becomes a Proposed Standard. Well, it's a double-edged capability. All of the concerns

Re: Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-01-31 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 31 January, 2007 17:02 + Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:54:26 -0500 John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except for the fact that the material being cited contains the specifics of license and IPR releases, and promises to abide

Re: Gen-ART Last Call Review of draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba-02.txt

2007-01-31 Thread Christian Vogt
Hello Eric, thank you for taking your time to review draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba. Please see my comments in-line below. Note I'm also sending a CC to ietf@ietf.org as suggested in the IESG's Last Call announcement on the Mipshop working group's mailing list. Summary: I have a small number

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign (Cryptographic MessageSyntax (CMS) Multiple Signer Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-31 Thread Sam Hartman
Denis, it sounds like you have two issues: 1) This document goes beyond specifying how to determine if a message is validly signed by a given signer. 2) There is not enough precision in the description of how to validate a signature. I strongly suggest that you try and build consensus for

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol (The syslog Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Andrews
- 'The syslog Protocol ' draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt as a Proposed Standard draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt recommends using a reliable protocol. Existing implementations of syslog do this and deadlock with nameservers which are logging via syslog.

RE: Gen-ART Last Call Review of draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba-02.txt

2007-01-31 Thread Eric Gray \(LO/EUS\)
For some reason, in your response, my bulletization of the list of the new status codes somehow got re-paragraphed - hopefully my version below does not suffer the same fate. Typographical resets should be absolutely disallowed in E-Mail. :-) To the casual reader, it may otherwise be unclear

Re: Gen-ART Last Call Review of draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba-02.txt

2007-01-31 Thread Christian Vogt
Eric - For some reason, in your response, my bulletization of the list of the new status codes somehow got re-paragraphed - hopefully my version below does not suffer the same fate. Oh, no, this was probably one of my Thunderbird extensions for nicer quotations. It's now deinstalled.

68th IETF Information

2007-01-31 Thread IETF Secretariat
The main meeting venue for the IETF Meeting is sold out. The cut off date to secure rooms at the overflow hotels is fast approaching. A list of overflow hotels be found at: http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/68-hotels.html Social Event Information: http://www.ietf.org/meetings/68-social.html Draft

Re: Informational RFC to be: draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt

2007-01-31 Thread The IESG
The IESG has no problem with the publication of 'LSP Preemption Policies for MPLS Traffic Engineering' draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt as an Informational RFC. The IESG would also like the RFC-Editor to review the comments in the datatracker

Last Call on the use of RFC 1951 as a normative reference

2007-01-31 Thread IESG Secretary
Under the term of RFC 3967, the IESG may approve a normative reference to a document at a lower level, after an appropriate Last Call. RFC 1951 is referenced by two documents recently put to Last Call: draft-ietf-lemonade-compress and draft-ietf-crisp-iris-lwz . As is common with algorithm

Document Action: 'IPv6 Enterprise Network Analysis - IP Layer 3 Focus' to Informational RFC

2007-01-31 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IPv6 Enterprise Network Analysis - IP Layer 3 Focus ' draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-07.txt as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the IPv6 Operations Working Group. The IESG contact persons are David Kessens and Dan

Last Call: draft-ietf-pwe3-wildcard-pw-type (Wildcard Pseudowire Type) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-31 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge WG (pwe3) to consider the following document: - 'Wildcard Pseudowire Type ' draft-ietf-pwe3-wildcard-pw-type-02.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final

BCP 127 RFC 4787 on Network Address Translation (NAT) Behavioral Requirements for Unicast UDP

2007-01-31 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. BCP 127 RFC 4787 Title: Network Address Translation (NAT) Behavioral Requirements for Unicast UDP Author: F. Audet, Ed., C. Jennings

RFC 4629 on RTP Payload Format for ITU-T Rec. H.263 Video

2007-01-31 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4629 Title: RTP Payload Format for ITU-T Rec. H.263 Video Author: J. Ott, C. Bormann, G. Sullivan, S. Wenger, R. Even,