Re: Referencing BCPs [Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment]

2007-02-01 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-01-31 18:47, John C Klensin wrote: --On Wednesday, 31 January, 2007 17:02 + Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:54:26 -0500 John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except for the fact that the material being cited contains the specifics of license

Re: Gen-ART Last Call Review of draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba-02.txt

2007-02-01 Thread Mark Townsley
Christian Vogt wrote: Eric - For some reason, in your response, my bulletization of the list of the new status codes somehow got re-paragraphed - hopefully my version below does not suffer the same fate. Oh, no, this was probably one of my Thunderbird extensions for nicer quotations.

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol (The syslog Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-01 Thread Sam Hartman
Mark == Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - 'The syslog Protocol ' draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt as a Proposed Standard Mark draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt recommends using a Mark reliable protocol. Existing implementations of syslog do Mark this and

RFC 4077: Implementation of the NACK mechanism

2007-02-01 Thread Aleksandar Glavas
Hello! I'm trying to implement the NACK mechanism in the existing SigComp module. I would like to know what are the expecting actions at the Compressor side after receiving the NACK message? There are about 25 possible errors, but I cann't see the easy way to fix all of them in Compressor

draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery considered harmful.

2007-02-01 Thread David W. Hankins
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 08:09:29AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: Mark == Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - 'The syslog Protocol ' draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt as a Proposed Standard Mark draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt recommends using a Mark reliable

ietf-moms --- a list for IETF widows

2007-02-01 Thread Michael Richardson
(Naturally, we understand that there may be ietf-dads,and ietf-spouses...) My wife (Meaghan), who is coming to IETF68 in Prague wants to know if there will be other non-participating parents/spouses in Prague. To quote her: If you had told me that so-and-so was going to be in San Diego, then

Re: [Syslog] Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol (The syslog Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-01 Thread Balazs Scheidler
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 08:31 +1100, Mark Andrews wrote: - 'The syslog Protocol ' draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt as a Proposed Standard draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt recommends using a reliable protocol. Existing implementations of syslog do this and deadlock

RE: [Syslog] Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol (The syslogProtocol) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-01 Thread Rainer Gerhards
I am thinking on how to come this by on the protocol basis, but so far I have no good clue (except that Baszi is probably right and it is a purely operational issue). However, I know some problems in this relation and though it is not a deadlock issue, I would like to share the scenario for sake

Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment

2007-02-01 Thread Frank Ellermann
Brian Carpenter wrote: http://www.ietf.org/IESG/content/ions/drafts/ion-procdocs.html I liked the I-D better, the xml2rfc HTML output is hard to read. For an ION you could probably remove the dummy chapters 3 and 4. Frank ___ Ietf mailing list

ietf-moms

2007-02-01 Thread IETF member Dave Aronson
Michael Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If there is interest, I will make a list. If someone has a more PC name, I'll use it. As we all know, the absolutely most critically important thing about any project, and a mailing list should be no exception, is its name. It should be

Re: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery considered harmful.

2007-02-01 Thread David W. Hankins
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:08:39AM -0800, David W. Hankins wrote: If you have 50,000 syslog lines to put out, and only enough network/disk/something bandwidth for 5,000 within the same time frame, that's a problem. s/5,000/49,999/ Apologies for the clerical error. -- David W. Hankins

Re: ietf-moms

2007-02-01 Thread Stephen Farrell
Isn't IETF childcare the microphone in the big room on Wed Thurs evenings? Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: Would this be the place to raise the issue of childcare provision at IETF meetings? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: ietf-moms

2007-02-01 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Don't tempt fate. I have seen the effect that a carefully loaded question from a ten year old can have on such meetings. That is how William Hague became leader of the British Conservative party. Sent from my GoodLink Wireless Handheld (www.good.com) -Original Message- From:

Re: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery considered harmful.

2007-02-01 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, David W. Hankins wrote: If you insist on keeping all 50,000 lines of output, there is no solution to that problem. If you block, that's a big problem as it ultimatley totally disables the service attempting to log information. If you write to a growing backing store, well

Re: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery considered harmful.

2007-02-01 Thread David W. Hankins
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:30:17PM +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: It's acceptable for the syslog sender to replace overflowing lines of syslog (if some messages need to be dropped due to lack of resources) with a message about rate-limiting, messages being dropped, or whatever -- just the same

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol (The syslog Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-01 Thread Mark Andrews
Mark == Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - 'The syslog Protocol ' draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt as a Proposed Standard Mark draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt recommends using a Mark reliable protocol. Existing implementations of syslog do Mark this

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol (The syslog Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-01 Thread Sam Hartman
Mark == Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark == Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - 'The syslog Protocol ' draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt as a Proposed Standard Mark draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-19.txt recommends using a Mark reliable protocol.

Re: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery considered harmful.

2007-02-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:08:39AM -0800, David W. Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 98 lines which said: If you block, that's a big problem as it ultimatley totally disables the service attempting to log information. Wether it is a bug or a feature depends on your requirments.

RFC 4628 on RTP Payload Format for H.263 Moving RFC 2190 to Historic Status

2007-02-01 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4628 Title: RTP Payload Format for H.263 Moving RFC 2190 to Historic Status Author: R. Even Status: Informational Date: January 2007

Protocol Action: 'Extensions to RSVP-TE for Point-to-Multipoint TE LSPs' to Proposed Standard

2007-02-01 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Extensions to RSVP-TE for Point-to-Multipoint TE LSPs ' draft-ietf-mpls-rsvp-te-p2mp-07.txt as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Ross Callon and

Last Call: draft-hoffman-ike-ipsec-hash-use (Use of Hash Algorithms in IKE and IPsec) to Informational RFC

2007-02-01 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Use of Hash Algorithms in IKE and IPsec ' draft-hoffman-ike-ipsec-hash-use-05.txt as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on