Re: Identifications dealing with Bulk Unsolicited Messages (BUMs)

2007-02-21 Thread Douglas Otis
On Feb 21, 2007, at 4:31 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2007-02-18 13:46, Tony Finch wrote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: If this was effective, blacklists would have solved the spam problem. They are 90% effective You what? Which Internet would that be? Blacklists

RE: Identifications dealing with Bulk Unsolicited Messages (BUMs)

2007-02-21 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
The question Brian raised is not the percentage of spam that blacklists catch, it's the false positive rate. The core problem with blacklists is that they attempted to impose accountability on others without accepting accountability themselves. Some blacklist perpetrators even boasted about the

RE: WG Review: Media Server Control (mediactrl)

2007-02-21 Thread Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)
To help Pekka here, from an operator's perspective the difference between 'control' and 'management' is quite blurred, as long as the same type of functionality happens in an operational deployment. Speaking as an individual I believe that your approach may be correct, but it's better that the rela

Re: Identifications dealing with Bulk Unsolicited Messages (BUMs)

2007-02-21 Thread Tony Finch
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > Blacklists at the level of sending domains (or reputation systems > that function like blacklists) are a failure. I was talking about IP address blacklists. Perhaps 90% was a bit over-optimistic - my stats from cam.ac.uk show more than 80% of spam

Re: WG Review: Media Server Control (mediactrl)

2007-02-21 Thread Eric Burger
We had not considered the control framework to be a management framework. Rather, we see it as a repeatable design pattern for how to find and establish protocol connections to a media server. What indicates that it is a management protocol? We do expect to use existing SNMP methods for the input

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP Extensions for Distributed Authoring - WebDAV) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-21 Thread Julian Reschke
Cullen Jennings schrieb: On Jan 22, 2007, at 4:49 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: Hi, RFC2518bis updates parts of RFC3253 (DAV:error below DAV:response) in an incompatible way, and thus should note it in the front matter ("Updates: 3253") and mention it as a change near the Changes Appendix. (se

Re: Identifications dealing with Bulk Unsolicited Messages (BUMs)

2007-02-21 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-02-18 13:46, Tony Finch wrote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: If this was effective, blacklists would have solved the spam problem. They are 90% effective You what? Which Internet would that be? Blacklists at the level of sending domains (or reputation systems

Re: Does our passport need to be valid for 6 months to go to Prague?

2007-02-21 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-02-19 00:57, Michael StJohns wrote: At 06:29 PM 2/18/2007, Janet P Gunn wrote: My guidebook says 6 months. Feel free to argue with the US State Dept.. :-) The US State Dept web info is inconsistent with the Czech Embassy web info. We are trying to get definite confirmation from an

Re: [PCN] Re: WG Review: Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notification(pcn)

2007-02-21 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-02-20 15:31, Fred Baker wrote: On Feb 20, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Georgios Karagiannis wrote: I assume that you also have no objection on using the DSCP fields for this purpose. actually, I do, at least in some ways that they might be used. The AF service (RFC 2597) is specifically design

Re: [PCN] Re: WG Review: Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notification(pcn)

2007-02-21 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-2-20, at 11:51, ext Pekka Savola wrote: It seems that are assuming the transport needs to happen in the packet itself. While this is a possible approach, I don't see that it needs to be the only one. For example, a mechanism where the mutually trusting network components would have