Re: Can the RIRs bypass the IETF and do their own thing?

2007-05-14 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-05-11 23:32, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: I've already indicated this in previous occasions, but may be not in ppml ... We are proceeding in parallel, with the ID and the PDP at the same time. Nothing in the PDP precludes doing so. The RIRs don't depend on IETF at all, they can define

Re: Can the RIRs bypass the IETF and do their own thing?

2007-05-14 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-05-11 16:14, Fred Baker wrote: ... One technical question I would ask. What does a Central Authority and IANA Assignment have to do with a Local address of any type? It seems in context that the major issue is an address prefix that is not advertised to neighboring ISPs and can be

Re: Can the RIRs bypass the IETF and do their own thing?

2007-05-14 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred, the point is that ULAs should be unambiguous, so that if they happen to meet (e.g. via a VPN, or following a merge of two previously separate networks) there is no collision. Currently ULAs include a pseudo-random prefix, which leaves open a

Re: [ppml] Can the RIRs bypass the IETF and do their own thing?

2007-05-14 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Stephen Sprunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ULA Central does not solve any problems that the existing tools already solve, and it creates new problems of its own. That should be don't already solve. S Stephen Sprunk Those people who think they know everything CCIE #3723 are a

Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: Can the RIRs bypass the IETF and do their own thing?

2007-05-14 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-05-14 16:08, Shane Kerr wrote: Brian, On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 01:34:31PM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2007-05-11 23:32, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: The RIRs don't depend on IETF at all, they can define global policies for things that the IETF failed to complete if that's the

Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: Can the RIRs bypass the IETF and do their own thing?

2007-05-14 Thread Shane Kerr
Brian, On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 01:34:31PM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2007-05-11 23:32, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: The RIRs don't depend on IETF at all, they can define global policies for things that the IETF failed to complete if that's the case. IANA can be instructed the same by

Re: Last Call: draft-taylor-megaco-obsol3525 (Reclassification of RFC 3525 to Historic) to Historic

2007-05-14 Thread Tom-PT Taylor
The intended status of the draft itself is Informational rather than Historic, surely? The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Reclassification of RFC 3525 to Historic ' draft-taylor-megaco-obsol3525-01.txt as a

Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call

2007-05-14 Thread Lisa Dusseault
The IESG reviewed http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-crocker- rfc4234bis-00.txt for publication as Internet Standard and would like to know if there is consensus to recommend against the use of LWSP in future specifications, as it has caused problems recently in DKIM and could

Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call

2007-05-14 Thread Julian Reschke
Lisa Dusseault wrote: The IESG reviewed http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-crocker-rfc4234bis-00.txt for publication as Internet Standard and would like to know if there is consensus to recommend against the use of LWSP in future specifications, as it has caused problems recently in

Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call

2007-05-14 Thread Dave Crocker
Lisa Dusseault wrote: The IESG reviewed http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-crocker-rfc4234bis-00.txt for publication as Internet Standard and would like to know if there is consensus to recommend against the use of LWSP in future specifications, Lisa, Process: 1 This issue was

Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call

2007-05-14 Thread Lisa Dusseault
On May 14, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: Lisa Dusseault wrote: The IESG reviewed http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft- crocker-rfc4234bis-00.txt for publication as Internet Standard and would like to know if there is consensus to recommend against the use of LWSP in future

Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call

2007-05-14 Thread Tony Hansen
Lisa Dusseault wrote: I share your concerns about removing rules that are already in use -- that would generally be a bad thing. However I'm interested in the consensus around whether a warning or a deprecation statement would be a good thing. LWSP has a valid meaning and use, and its being

Last Call: draft-ietf-radext-fixes (Common RADIUS Implementation Issues and Suggested Fixes) to Proposed Standard

2007-05-14 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the RADIUS EXTensions WG (radext) to consider the following document: - 'Common RADIUS Implementation Issues and Suggested Fixes ' draft-ietf-radext-fixes-03.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits

Last Call: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-leasequery (DHCPv6 Leasequery) to Proposed Standard

2007-05-14 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Dynamic Host Configuration WG (dhc) to consider the following document: - 'DHCPv6 Leasequery ' draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-leasequery-00.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this

Last Call: draft-ietf-hip-applications (Using the Host Identity Protocol with Legacy Applications) to Experimental RFC

2007-05-14 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Host Identity Protocol WG (hip) to consider the following document: - 'Using the Host Identity Protocol with Legacy Applications ' draft-ietf-hip-applications-01.txt as an Experimental RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and

Last Call: draft-ietf-hip-dns (Host Identity Protocol (HIP) Domain Name System (DNS) Extensions) to Experimental RFC

2007-05-14 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Host Identity Protocol WG (hip) to consider the following document: - 'Host Identity Protocol (HIP) Domain Name System (DNS) Extensions ' draft-ietf-hip-dns-09.txt as an Experimental RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and

Last Call: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-ero (DHCPv6 Relay Agent Echo Request Option) to Proposed Standard

2007-05-14 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Dynamic Host Configuration WG (dhc) to consider the following document: - 'DHCPv6 Relay Agent Echo Request Option ' draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-ero-01.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final

Document Action: 'IMAP ANNOTATE Extension' to Experimental RFC

2007-05-14 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IMAP ANNOTATE Extension ' draft-ietf-imapext-annotate-16.txt as an Experimental RFC This document is the product of the Internet Message Access Protocol Extension Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Lisa Dusseault and Chris Newman.