Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread Mark Nottingham
This is a very good question. I've considered setting up a wiki page or similar to serve this purpose for the HTTP family of specifications. However, it's not clear what authority it would have, and it's not clear whether people would be able to readily find it. If we can find a way to do

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread t.petch
Shane What I carry with me - used to be on a diskette, now on a stick - is the index to RFC, available from the same source as RFC themselves. Plain text, compact, easy to search. The caveat is you never know whether the people choosing the title of an RFC will have abbreviated a common term

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread Shane Kerr
Mark, FWIW, this came up in the dnsext working group a few years ago. In the end, I don't think anything was done, which is kind of a shame. A lot of old protocols could benefit by this is what is important documents (search the RFCs for FTP or TELNET to get some examples of protocols with lots

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 01:18:12PM +0100, Shane Kerr wrote: FWIW, this came up in the dnsext working group a few years ago. In the end, I don't think anything was done, which is kind of a shame. Nothing was done for want of workers ;-) We concluded there was no real room in official IETF

conformance languages (issue 278), was: Last Call: draft-ietf-httpbis-content-disp-06.txt (Use of the Content-Disposition Header Field in the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)) to Proposed Standar

2011-03-01 Thread Julian Reschke
Hi Barry, we're tracking this as http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/httpbis/trac/ticket/278. On 01.03.2011 00:33, Barry Leiba wrote: I'm sorry not to have posted this during WGLC, but I didn't notice it until now: The document uses the phrase are advised [to do something] in two places (the

Re: conformance languages (issue 278), was: Last Call: draft-ietf-httpbis-content-disp-06.txt (Use of the Content-Disposition Header Field in the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)) to Proposed Stan

2011-03-01 Thread Barry Leiba
I agree that this needs tuning; but I'd rather not invent a new keyword for that. Sensible. The appendix D (http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-httpbis-content-disp-06.html#rfc.section.D) isn't meant to be normative; thus I believe leaving it the way it is ought to be ok. OK.

Re: conformance languages (issue 278),

2011-03-01 Thread Martin Rex
Julian Reschke wrote: http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-httpbis-content-disp-06.html#rfc.section.4.3, I believe we really should say SHOULD in all the three last items: o Many platforms do not use Internet Media Types ([RFC2046]) to hold type information in the

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread Bob Braden
A few years ago some of us tried to interest the IETF in producing road maps for all the major protocols/protocol families. As a worked example, we produced a roadmap for TCP. It seems to me that you are asking for more roadmaps. Bob Braden On 3/1/2011 4:18 AM, Shane Kerr wrote: Mark,

Re: conformance languages (issue 278),

2011-03-01 Thread Julian Reschke
On 01.03.2011 18:06, Martin Rex wrote: ... o Other aspects recipients need to be aware of are names that have a special meaning in the file system or in shell commands, such as . and .., ~, |, and also device names. - ...and SHOULD and ignore or substitute these names...

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 3/1/2011 3:01 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote: This is a very good question. I've considered setting up a wiki page or similar to serve this purpose for the HTTP family of specifications. ... If we can find a way to do this, and to cut through the clutter of all of the other information, it

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread Tony Finch
On 1 Mar 2011, at 18:56, Dave CROCKER d...@dcrocker.net wrote: If you all promise to keep in mind that it is only a /very/ rough and formative effort, please take a look at: http://bbiw.net/trac/suites/ There are also some groups of RFCs listed at

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 3/1/2011 11:59 AM, Tony Finch wrote: On 1 Mar 2011, at 18:56, Dave CROCKERd...@dcrocker.net wrote: If you all promise to keep in mind that it is only a /very/ rough and formative effort, please take a look at: http://bbiw.net/trac/suites/ There are also some groups of RFCs listed

draft-ietf-genarea-datatracker-iana-rfced-extns

2011-03-01 Thread Russ Housley
I want to call your attention to draft-ietf-genarea-datatracker-iana-rfced-extns draft that was recently posted. Thanks to Sandy, Michelle, and Alexa for putting it together. Abstract This document captures the requirements for integrating IANA and RFC Editor state information into

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2011-03-02 01:29, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 01:18:12PM +0100, Shane Kerr wrote: FWIW, this came up in the dnsext working group a few years ago. In the end, I don't think anything was done, which is kind of a shame. Nothing was done for want of workers ;-) We

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 3/1/11 12:43 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2011-03-02 01:29, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 01:18:12PM +0100, Shane Kerr wrote: FWIW, this came up in the dnsext working group a few years ago. In the end, I don't think anything was done, which is kind of a shame.

Pictures of you in your IETF T-shirts

2011-03-01 Thread IETF Chair
As part of recognizing the IETF's 25th anniversary, we would like to celebrate the tradition of IETF meeting t-shirts and community contribution. We are assembling a gallery of photographs of t-shirts from across the years. The photographs need not be from IETF Meetings. In fact, the more

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread Dave Cridland
On Tue Mar 1 18:56:25 2011, Dave CROCKER wrote: If you all promise to keep in mind that it is only a /very/ rough and formative effort, please take a look at: http://bbiw.net/trac/suites/ I believe what it's trying to do is exactly what you are asking for. It's in trac wiki form

Gen-ART LC/Telechat Review of draft-mrw-nat66-08

2011-03-01 Thread Ben Campbell
I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq. Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. Document: draft-mrw-nat66-08

Re: Gen-ART LC/Telechat Review of draft-mrw-nat66-08

2011-03-01 Thread Fred Baker
Thanks. I picked these up in -09, so that there is no issue. On Mar 1, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq. Please wait for

Pictures of you in your IETF T-shirts

2011-03-01 Thread IETF Chair
As part of recognizing the IETF's 25th anniversary, we would like to celebrate the tradition of IETF meeting t-shirts and community contribution. We are assembling a gallery of photographs of t-shirts from across the years. The photographs need not be from IETF Meetings. In fact, the more

Protocol Action: 'MPLS Upstream Label Assignment for LDP' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-upstream-10.txt)

2011-03-01 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'MPLS Upstream Label Assignment for LDP' (draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-upstream-10.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Stewart Bryant.