Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2011-03-25 Thread Stefan Santesson
Great thoughts from many people. I just want to clarify a few things as I see that my message is slightly misunderstood. Firstly: The core of my opinion is NOT that I think people should convert to nroff encoding or XML coding or XHTML encoding or whatever encoding as editing language. I don't th

RE: Differences between RFC4944 as distributed by tools.ietf and datatracker.ietf / rfc-editor

2011-03-25 Thread Adrian Farrel
[Copying the RFC Editor to let them also check their records] Note that the IANA registry is consistent with http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4944.txt Adrian > -Original Message- > From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Mathieu Goessens > Sent: 25 March

Re: Differences between RFC4944 as distributed by tools.ietf and datatracker.ietf / rfc-editor

2011-03-25 Thread Mathieu Goessens
On 25/03/2011 20:12, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Mathieu Goessens wrote: > > >> Hi folks, >> >> The RFC4944 looks to be different in the version distributed by >> tools.ietf.org and datatracker.ietf.org / rfc-editor.org. >> >> The figure 2 looks truncated on the tools.iet

Re: Document formatting, was Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2011-03-25 Thread John Levine
> What I'm opposed to, and what prompted my note, was purely what I > consider a misguided effort to turn the xml2rfc model from generic > markup into a formatting language. For the record, I entirely agree. The reason I've proposed adding formatting twiddles to xml2rfc is so that the RFC Ed can

Re: Differences between RFC4944 as distributed by tools.ietf and datatracker.ietf / rfc-editor

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Mathieu Goessens wrote: > Hi folks, > > The RFC4944 looks to be different in the version distributed by > tools.ietf.org and datatracker.ietf.org / rfc-editor.org. > > The figure 2 looks truncated on the tools.ietf.org version: > > http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4944

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2011-03-25 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, March 25, 2011 13:06 -0400 "Andrew G. Malis" wrote: > I know that XML is the wave of the future, but I just want to > give Stefan a plug as a happy user that NroffEdit makes the > mechanical and formatting part of writing drafts almost > effortless. And, had it appeared a decade a

Differences between RFC4944 as distributed by tools.ietf and datatracker.ietf / rfc-editor

2011-03-25 Thread Mathieu Goessens
Hi folks, The RFC4944 looks to be different in the version distributed by tools.ietf.org and datatracker.ietf.org / rfc-editor.org. The figure 2 looks truncated on the tools.ietf.org version: http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4944.txt http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4944.txt Do you know what is

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2011-03-25 Thread Andrew G. Malis
I know that XML is the wave of the future, but I just want to give Stefan a plug as a happy user that NroffEdit makes the mechanical and formatting part of writing drafts almost effortless. Cheers, Andy ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.iet

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2011-03-25 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, March 24, 2011 02:14 +0100 Stefan Santesson wrote: > I can't escape the feeling that this discussion of using > markup language editing to produce RFCs, is a bit upside down. > > I'm much more concerned with draft writers having to deal with > markup syntax than I am about draft

IETF80 Audio streaming

2011-03-25 Thread Nick Kukich
Greetings! Just a quick update on the streaming stuff. We'll be broadcasting audio streams of the meetings as of Monday. For those interested in monitoring sessions or participating remotely the following information may prove useful. - -Audio Streaming- All 8 parallel tracks at the IETF 80 m

voip - dhcp lease renew on ring

2011-03-25 Thread Josh Roberts
Anybody have: 1. any rfc reference for best practice on voip deployment regarding whether to use a static/dynamic ip? 2. any rfc material on how a voip/sip client should/must handle a dhcp lease check/renewal when receiving a call from its server? Thanks for your time, Josh _

xml2rfc/xslt in Prague, was: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2011-03-25 Thread Julian Reschke
On 25.03.2011 04:35, John Levine wrote: ... Hijacking this thread...: There'll be an xml2rfc related session on Sunday: 1500-1650 Tools for Creating Internet-Drafts Tutorial - Congress Hall I ...which I'll try to attend (and maybe demo stuff, and answer questions around the XSLT implem