Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-01-23 Thread Alessandro Vesely
The solution is simple - move to TAI. That is the _true_ time, what the master clocks actually keep. UTC is just a variant for creatures living on the surface of the Earth. Being one of those creatures, I voted for keeping leap seconds. UTC seems to fit the global Internet quite nicely,

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-01-23 Thread Eliot Lear
On 1/23/12 3:27 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: Eliot == Eliot Lear l...@cisco.com writes: Can you tell me which protocols use future timestamps in an moving form (not stored at rest in a certificate in a DANE RR, for instance), which care about discrepancies of less than 1

Re: primary Paris hotel booking

2012-01-23 Thread Tim Chown
On 20 Jan 2012, at 00:37, Stuart Cheshire wrote: Good suggestion Brian. I just called our corporate travel department and got the same rate as IETF, including free Internet and breakfast, and cancel by 6 PM on check-in day. Nice if you have such a department :) I booked a room by fax

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-01-23 Thread Tony Finch
Clint Chaplin clint.chap...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Ofer Inbar c...@a.org wrote: If the main problem with leap seconds is their future unpredictability, isn't there a compromise option between the status quo and no more leap seconds?  Couldn't they come up

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-01-23 Thread Ray Bellis
Just curious, but I've often used the formulation: day = (now - now % 86400) where now is the output of gmtime() of equivalent to calculate the number of days since the epoch. How is this affected (or not) by the presence of leap seconds, and/or any proposal to remove them. Ray

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-01-23 Thread Tony Finch
Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote: Time is and always will be an arbitrary measurement scheme, and the only thing that makes sense for the Internet is to use the same arbitrary scheme as everybody else. We just have to suck up the resulting inconveniences, as GPS has to. It

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-01-23 Thread Tony Finch
Ray Bellis ray.bel...@nominet.org.uk wrote: day = (now - now % 86400) where now is the output of gmtime() of equivalent to calculate the number of days since the epoch. How is this affected (or not) by the presence of leap seconds, and/or any proposal to remove them. It is not

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-15.txt (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-01-23 16:46, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from the Web Authorization Protocol WG (oauth) to consider the following document: - 'The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens' draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-15.txt as a Proposed Standard ... Please see my

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-15.txt (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-01-23 18:24, Mike Jones wrote: As editor of the Oauth Bearer spec, I believe that these comments have been well understood and considered by the working group. I do understand that the working group's consensus position is different than Julian's. See these notes documenting that

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-01-23 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Alessandro Vesely ves...@tana.it wrote: The solution is simple - move to TAI. That is the _true_ time, what the master clocks actually keep. UTC is just a variant for creatures living on the surface of the Earth. Being one of those creatures, I voted for

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23.txt (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread Barry Leiba
The IESG has received a request from the Web Authorization Protocol WG (oauth) to consider the following document: - 'The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol'  draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23.txt as a Proposed Standard There are some downrefs in this document that need to be called out in the Last Call

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23.txt (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 1/23/12 11:31 AM, Barry Leiba wrote: The IESG has received a request from the Web Authorization Protocol WG (oauth) to consider the following document: - 'The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol' draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23.txt as a Proposed Standard There are some downrefs in this document

RE: Interested in giving a talk at the FCC?

2012-01-23 Thread Richard Shockey
I'd like to whole heartedly endorse this suggestion and encourage a variety of IETF Subject matter experts to give talks relevant to the FCC. I personally help arrange two seminars at the FCC at the invitation of Doug Sicker, Henning's predecessor as CTO The first on was a tutorial on SIP and

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsext-xnamercode-00.txt (xNAME RCODE and Status Bits Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread SM
At 10:23 23-01-2012, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from the DNS Extensions WG (dnsext) to consider the following document: - 'xNAME RCODE and Status Bits Clarification' draft-ietf-dnsext-xnamercode-00.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next

Room sharing in Paris?

2012-01-23 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Is there an appropriate list/wiki/etc. to discuss possible room sharing arrangements? I'm not going to be able to register for the event until I get this worked out, so I can use the meeting-specific attendees list for that purpose. If there is no such place, I'll state here that I'm

Re: Room sharing in Paris?

2012-01-23 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi Kevin You can register at https://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html You can hold off on paying until early March. That will give you the ability to edit the meeting wiki: https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf83 You can easily add a page there for what you're looking for.

Re: Room sharing in Paris?

2012-01-23 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
On 01/23/2012 02:42 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: Hi Kevin You can register at https://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html You can hold off on paying until early March. Of course, I should have realized that. That will give you the ability to edit the meeting wiki:

Last Call: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23.txt (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Web Authorization Protocol WG (oauth) to consider the following document: - 'The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol' draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on

Last Call: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-15.txt (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Web Authorization Protocol WG (oauth) to consider the following document: - 'The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens' draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-15.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and

Last Call: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-bulk-leasequery-05.txt (Bulk DHCPv4 Lease Query) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Dynamic Host Configuration WG (dhc) to consider the following document: - 'Bulk DHCPv4 Lease Query' draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-bulk-leasequery-05.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments

Last Call: draft-ietf-simple-chat-13.txt (Multi-party Chat Using the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP)) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions WG (simple) to consider the following document: - 'Multi-party Chat Using the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP)' draft-ietf-simple-chat-13.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make

Last Call: draft-ietf-dhc-forcerenew-nonce-03.txt (Forcerenew Nonce Authentication) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Dynamic Host Configuration WG (dhc) to consider the following document: - 'Forcerenew Nonce Authentication' draft-ietf-dhc-forcerenew-nonce-03.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final

Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsext-xnamercode-00.txt (xNAME RCODE and Status Bits Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-23 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the DNS Extensions WG (dnsext) to consider the following document: - 'xNAME RCODE and Status Bits Clarification' draft-ietf-dnsext-xnamercode-00.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments

Protocol Action: 'Authentication Failure Reporting using the Abuse Report Format' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-marf-authfailure-report-10.txt)

2012-01-23 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Authentication Failure Reporting using the Abuse Report Format' (draft-ietf-marf-authfailure-report-10.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Messaging Abuse Reporting Format Working Group. The IESG contact persons are

Protocol Action: 'OSPFv2 Multi-Instance Extensions' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-ospf-multi-instance-09.txt)

2012-01-23 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'OSPFv2 Multi-Instance Extensions' (draft-ietf-ospf-multi-instance-09.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Open Shortest Path First IGP Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Stewart Bryant and Adrian Farrel. A

Protocol Action: 'Moving A6 to Historic Status' to Informational RFC (draft-jiang-a6-to-historic-00.txt)

2012-01-23 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Moving A6 to Historic Status' (draft-jiang-a6-to-historic-00.txt) as an Informational RFC This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group. The IESG contact person is Ralph Droms. A URL of this

Protocol Action: 'DNS Extensions to Support IPv6 Address Aggregation and Renumbering' (RFC 2874) to Historic

2012-01-23 Thread IESG Secretary
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'DNS Extensions to Support IPv6 Address Aggregation and Renumbering ' RFC 2874 as a Historic RFC This document is the product of the IP Version 6 Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Ralph Droms and Jari Arkko. A URL of this RFC is: