On 3/16/12 21:28 , Joel jaeggli wrote:
> On 3/16/12 20:04 , John C Klensin wrote:
>> Note too that, if the company sends only five technical people
>> and concludes that it doesn't suffer harm from that small a
>> number, the odds of getting back up to 10 if the experiment is
>> terminated and thos
On 3/16/12 20:04 , John C Klensin wrote:
> Note too that, if the company sends only five technical people
> and concludes that it doesn't suffer harm from that small a
> number, the odds of getting back up to 10 if the experiment is
> terminated and those five sales/market types disappear is just
>
On 3/16/2012 8:04 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
Suppose we offer them a
show floor or equivalent and they decide they need to send five
market or sales folk to staff it.
wow. that's very creative thinking John.
d/
--
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net
--On Friday, March 16, 2012 17:49 -0800 Melinda Shore
wrote:
>...
> No harm in looking at it, though. Questions about what it
> would
> offer that participants would find useful (other than beer).
Not to pick on Melinda (her note was just handy), but I want to
push back a bit on the "no harm
On 3/16/12 3:32 PM, David Morris wrote:
I find my self needing downtime when I attend an IETF meeting.
Me too, and while I'm pro-beer I'm ambivalent about gear. I
don't really understand what would be in it for any of the
parties involved.
No harm in looking at it, though. Questions about wh
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "IAOC" == IAOC Chair writes:
>
> IAOC> QUESTION: What do you think about doing a Beer and Gear
> IAOC> style of event on an evening that does not conflict with other
> IAOC> IETF activities?
>
> I think that hallway conversations,
On 3/16/12 14:19 , Fred Baker wrote:
>
> On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:13 PM, David Meyer wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Fred Baker
>> wrote:
>>> The question I would ask is: "who are the vendors marketing to,
>>> and what are they selling?" At NANOG, that's fairly clear;
>>> companies lik
--On Friday, March 16, 2012 16:35 -0400 Sam Hartman
wrote:
> IAOC> QUESTION: What do you think about doing a Beer and
> Gear IAOC> style of event on an evening that does not
> conflict with other IAOC> IETF activities?
>
> I think that hallway conversations, private meetings and
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012, Russ Housley wrote:
> Thursday is gone, we have given the host the Monday lunch slot. So,
> there are no more slots in Paris. But is also shows that we could
> probably get sponsorship dollars for the Monday lunch slot on an ongoing
> basis.
Another slot to consider ... br
On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
> But these are worth pursuing only if the community is comfortable with the
> basic idea of doing this kind of event.
I'm willing to do the experiment.
Andy:
> On 03/16/2012 01:35 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
>>
>> IAOC>QUESTION: What do you think about doing a Beer and Gear
>> IAOC> style of event on an evening that does not conflict with other
>> IAOC> IETF activities?
>>
>> I think that hallway conversations, private meetings and
Fred, et al,
On 3/16/2012 2:03 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
Not opposed to the experiment, but not sure that we're comparing apples to
apples.
To clarify:
The current question is about IETF community comfort with the IAOC's exploring
this. That is, it's a form of "may we proceed to do the resea
On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:13 PM, David Meyer wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
>> The question I would ask is: "who are the vendors marketing to, and what are
>> they selling?" At NANOG, that's fairly clear; companies like Cisco and
>> Juniper, and resellers like Network
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
> The question I would ask is: "who are the vendors marketing to, and what are
> they selling?" At NANOG, that's fairly clear; companies like Cisco and
> Juniper, and resellers like Network Hardware, are selling to their customers,
> who are of
Apologies for the delayed response--the day job got in the way this week.
Comments inline:
On Mar 12, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 2012-03-12 17:15, Ben Campbell wrote:
>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
>> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
>> <
The question I would ask is: "who are the vendors marketing to, and what are
they selling?" At NANOG, that's fairly clear; companies like Cisco and Juniper,
and resellers like Network Hardware, are selling to their customers, who are
often technical decision makers or senior staff in companies t
On 03/16/2012 01:35 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
"IAOC" == IAOC Chair writes:
IAOC>QUESTION: What do you think about doing a Beer and Gear
IAOC> style of event on an evening that does not conflict with other
IAOC> IETF activities?
I think that hallway conversations, private mee
> "IAOC" == IAOC Chair writes:
IAOC> QUESTION: What do you think about doing a Beer and Gear
IAOC> style of event on an evening that does not conflict with other
IAOC> IETF activities?
I think that hallway conversations, private meetings and other
activities that people have al
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:49 PM, IAOC Chair wrote:
>
> The IESG and IAOC are considering an addition to the IETF meeting week, and
> we would like your views before we develop the idea further.
>
> At NANOG, there is a Beer and Gear reception one evening. There are
> exhibitor tables with produ
The IESG and IAOC are considering an addition to the IETF meeting week, and we
would like your views before we develop the idea further.
At NANOG, there is a Beer and Gear reception one evening. There are exhibitor
tables with product vendors (hardware and software) and service providers
(reg
On 3/16/12 4:00 AM, t.petch wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peter Saint-Andre"
> To: "t.petch"
> Cc: ; "Dave CROCKER" ; "Mark Nottingham"
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:19 PM
>
>> On 3/13/12 3:37 AM, t.petch wrote:
>>> I am surprised at the lack of comment on this I-D on it
On 03/16/2012 12:39 PM, John Levine wrote:
In article<4f6236e6.5030...@nostrum.com> you write:
The current plan is to investigate both a web based archive access
mechanism and an IMAP based one.
Don't forget NNTP (RFC 3977). I use it locally, deliver list mail to
local per-list newsgroups, a
In article <4f6236e6.5030...@nostrum.com> you write:
>The current plan is to investigate both a web based archive access
>mechanism and an IMAP based one.
Don't forget NNTP (RFC 3977). I use it locally, deliver list mail to
local per-list newsgroups, and it works really well.
R's,
John
- Original Message -
From: "Stewart Bryant"
To: "t.petch"
Cc: "Fangyu Li" ;
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Last Call:(Allocationof
an Associated Channel Code Point for Use by ITU-T Ethernet basedOAM) to
Informational RFC
> On 16/03/2012 08:46, t.petch wrote:
> >
> From: SM [s...@resistor.net]
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbK-g8tKnoc
"When Mussolini was Area Director ..."
Dale
On 16/03/2012 08:46, t.petch wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Stewart Bryant"
To: "Fangyu Li"
Cc:;
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:53 PM
On 14/03/2012 13:36, Fangyu Li wrote:
I support the allocation of an ACH codepoint to G.8113.1.
For G.8113.1 had reached the technical and industr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbK-g8tKnoc
Regards,
-sm
> "Pete" == Pete Resnick writes:
Pete> (*mumble*) Folks, let's please not try to engineer around user
Pete> silliness. User silliness will occur no matter what tools we
Pete> provide.
Pete> Anybody can get a place on Dropbox or elsewhere and put a URL
Pete> to their stuff
Ted
I knew that SIDR was planning to hold this meeting.
The SIDR WG currently needs more interaction time
than can be accommodated within IETF week.
I verified with a number of IESG colleagues that
holding a meeting adjacent to an IETF meeting was
within the guidelines. The important point is t
- Original Message -
From: "Peter Saint-Andre"
To: "t.petch"
Cc: ; "Dave CROCKER" ; "Mark Nottingham"
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:19 PM
> On 3/13/12 3:37 AM, t.petch wrote:
> > I am surprised at the lack of comment on this I-D on its use of terminology.
I
> > have seen and learnt f
- Original Message -
From: "Stewart Bryant"
To: "Fangyu Li"
Cc: ;
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:53 PM
> On 14/03/2012 13:36, Fangyu Li wrote:
> > I support the allocation of an ACH codepoint to G.8113.1.
> > For G.8113.1 had reached the technical and industry maturity to be
> > assig
- Original Message -
From: "Russ Housley"
To: "IETF"
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:46 AM
> Some suggestions have been made about the IETF mail lists.
> There is a way for mailman to strip attachments and put them
> in a place for downloading with a web browser. This would be
> a sig
Michael Richardson wrote:
"Cyrus" == Cyrus Daboo writes:
Cyrus> Along those lines how about setting up an IETF IMAP server
Cyrus> with mailboxes for each mailing list hosted by the IETF? That
Cyrus> way anyone with a capable IMAP client (one that can
How about we use the protocol
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